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The Shape of the V'Ger Cloud

...you even see Enterprise's flight path on one of Mr. Spock's Science Station Monitors displaying the parabola with its directrix.
I'm trying to recall that screen. Do you recall when it appeared during the film? I checked the screencaps at Trekcore but couldn't find one that appeared to be what you're talking about.
 
...you even see Enterprise's flight path on one of Mr. Spock's Science Station Monitors displaying the parabola with its directrix.
I'm trying to recall that screen. Do you recall when it appeared during the film? I checked the screencaps at Trekcore but couldn't find one that appeared to be what you're talking about.

Well, I did find a picture at Trekcore (Chapter 17 - Red Alert, Page 2 [Row 5, Column 3]) showing the parabola on Spock's Monitor, here, but I don't see the directrix. I think Trekcore has uploaded the Director's Edition, which deleted the dialog between Kirk and Ilia about laying in a conic-section flight path.


Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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Psion, those visuals showing the orientation were amazing.

Thanks, Peach Wookiee (and Praetor!). I cheated a bit and oversimplified some shapes.
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"Please excuse the crudity of this model, I didn't have time to build it to scale or to paint it."
 
Alternatively, the cloud might be oriented a little differently and the Enterprise might be approaching from a direction perpendicular to the axis of V'ger's movement, but I don't think that's supported by the movie.
Brilliant work, Psion.
 
Nice work there Psion. :techman:

I really think sometimes the amount of thought that went into TMP was it's own undoing with regard to the "masses" understanding it. So much of it was "short hand" by the time of production that the makers didn't take the time to spell out some of the things. That and the rushed "script it as we go" for the second half of the film are really what hurt this film.
 
You know, re-reading the Reeves-Stevenses' 'Phase II' book, I really feel that was part of it. The studio dragged their feet and hemmed and hawed so much that by the time it was ready to be turned into a movie, too many cooks were in the kitchen with different recipes.

The personal gripes between Roddenberry and Livingston seem particularly problematic.
 
Surrounded by layer upon layer of cloud formations, the vessel aspect of V'Ger was huge, with even the largest starship seeming microscopic in comparison.
The construction of the exterior and interior of the vessel was mostly of an axially symmetric nature, with the axis generally running from "bow" to "stern", but with few indications as to its nature or purposes. Organic in appearance, despite harboring no biological life forms, the interior was multi-chambered, and contained circular apertures that could be closed or opened to prevent or allow passage from one section of the vessel to the next, the most prominent of which measuring in excess of one kilometer wide. As of the late 24th century, it remained by far the largest single space vessel ever encountered by the Federation.
In one area of the vessel there was a three-dimensional data storage facility. This stored representations of all data collected by V'Ger. The plasma energy weapon which the vessel used to defend itself not only had extreme destructive force, but also functioned as an unusual data-gathering system; as V'Ger destroyed a vessel, it gathered an enormous amount of information, and created what appeared to be a holographic record of it. When the science officer of the Enterprise, Commander Spock, entered the area, he could see images of everything that the powerful entity had encountered on its long journey, including planets, star systems, and entire galaxies, though the images remained indeterminable, as to whether they had been destroyed or simply explored. When Spock came to an image of a gigantic Lieutenant Ilia, he noticed a glowing "node", at the base of the image's throat. He was being guided telepathically by V'Ger, and attempted to access the data through a Vulcan mind meld. He quickly suffered a sensory overload, losing consciousness, and was flung back through the spiral "orifice" toward the Enterprise.

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Hey Guys,

The Enterprise NCC-1701 entered the vger cloud and emerged at the ass end of the vger spaceship. There was a orange glowing bulge that probably was intended to be an engine of sorts. The Enterprise then proceeded to skim the surface of the ship at 500 meters from aft to bow ending up almost in front of the ship then was captured by a tractor beam and the front end of the vger ship opened up swallowing the Enterprise. It's in the movie.
 
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