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Spoilers The Roddenberry Archive brings every iteration of Star Trek’s USS Enterprise bridge to life

But also, as much as I love Shatner as the original Kirk, I’ve never been particularly fond of the idea of bringing him back after the events of Generations. I remember reading Shatner’s novels about that and finding them laughably contrived and stupid, like someone’s juvenile fan fiction. So if this is an attempt at bringing some of that to the screen, I’m just not someone who ever wanted to see that.
It'd be one thing if there was near universal acclaim for how GEN ended Kirk's character arc. Instead it's considered one of the legacy portion of the franchise's greatest fails. If Shatner is still available and new technology can make moving being GEN possible, why not, provided there's the right story?

And then more generally … and I promise I’m not trying to look too deep into what is obviously some very well produced fan production … just an observation: I’m always a little taken aback by how a part of fandom is so wowed by faithfully recreating the old look of characters (or ships or sets or props etc.). I’m someone who’s way more comfortable with them casting a new guy as Kirk and tell a new story rather than trying to resurrect how an actor looked 30 years ago. It sometimes feels some fans would be way more comfortable if this was what Star Trek is from now on: Trying to recreate the look of old Trek to a tee instead of having new creative people reinterpret, reimagine and remix what came before.
People are fans of Star Trek for different reasons. There is the sizable segment of the fanbase that really does treat it like a period piece, are invested in the original portrayal of the characters, and are deeply enmeshed in the lore / mythology. If you want to reinterpret / reimagine / remix Star Trek, why not go forward without altering the existing continuity? Otherwise you'd just end up in a reboot loop.
 
No idea what century this was done in.
Long time posters know what I think of rebooting or moderning previous Trek shows.
 
It’s insane how they do so much of this in-camera with prosthetics and real-time digital overlays. Some day they need to do a proper demo of how it’s all done. It seems like magic.

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They definitely seemed to find some actors with staggering resemblances to the originals, especially the guy who did Spock. I found myself staring at his face for a really long time when the first footage started getting released months ago. One part of my brain was convinced it was Nimoy but another part of my brain knew it wasn't. It was very much a strange kind of cognitive dissonance moment.
 
It’s insane how they do so much of this in-camera with prosthetics and real-time digital overlays. Some day they need to do a proper demo of how it’s all done. It seems like magic.

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Are you telling me that second picture isn't Shatner from a documentary?? Crazy, and that's without CG enhancing?

I thought Billy Zane picture where he's playing Marlon Brando was impressive enough, but this is something.
 
Yep, I'm pretty certain that was supposed to be the implication there.

Also,

The interview with Robin Curtis seems to imply that this 'Sorak' was supposed to be Saavik and Spock's son.

That's been in my head canon since reading the first draft. Though Saavik looks like Kirstie Alley, was half Romulan, and was still a mentor to Valeris (per VI novelization).
 
It’s insane how they do so much of this in-camera with prosthetics and real-time digital overlays. Some day they need to do a proper demo of how it’s all done. It seems like magic.

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I am hoping to see the entire DC comic run (with the animated characters) on 1701-A redone with AI.
 
But seemingly it's still done effectively as live, rather than with a ton of post-production. That's the real game-changer from what I've seen.

They start with actors who are already close physical matches, with make up and hairstyling doing a lot of the work.
 
I am hoping to see the entire DC comic run (with the animated characters) on 1701-A redone with AI.
I think that might be a tad optimistic, but I wonder if there's a chance they will attempt to remake a TAS episode in "live action" using the digital sets and character doubles.
 
What a beautiful tribute. Watched Robin Curtis's interview as well. She was genuinely emotional about her return. Such a shame that so much potential for her character was squandered. Star Trek V would have been a perfect vehicle to reveal her Romulan heritage. Star Trek VI would have been much more powerful if Saavik had been motivated to seek revenge on Kirk's behalf and then conflicted about the knock on effects on Kirk and Spock. Even TNG Unification would have been even cooler if Saavik had been present with Sarek.
 
It'd be one thing if there was near universal acclaim for how GEN ended Kirk's character arc. Instead it's considered one of the legacy portion of the franchise's greatest fails. If Shatner is still available and new technology can make moving being GEN possible, why not, provided there's the right story?
“It's considered one of the legacy portion of the franchise's greatest fails.” Is that so? I can’t say I’ve personally ever viewed it as something particularly bad, let alone “one of the greatest fails”. Mind you, I was a kid when I first saw Generations and I mostly have very fond memories of liking the movie. Assessing it as an adult it’s not my favorite of the bunch, but I never saw the ending as something that needs rectifying.

But then again, I also agree with you in that they can obviously do what they want, as long as Shatner is on board and the have the money and resources. Can’t say this had much in the way of any story, though. (Not that it needs to have that, considering what it is, but I’m just saying that because you mentioned there should be “the right story” when they attempt something like this.)

People are fans of Star Trek for different reasons. There is the sizable segment of the fanbase that really does treat it like a period piece, are invested in the original portrayal of the characters, and are deeply enmeshed in the lore / mythology. If you want to reinterpret / reimagine / remix Star Trek, why not go forward without altering the existing continuity? Otherwise you'd just end up in a reboot loop.
Well, I’m not trying to tell anyone how they should enjoy Trek, just saying what I prefer. :) Let me just say, though: I am someone who’s very interested in Star Trek’s aesthetic and I very much do get a kick out of fans making these kind of flawless recreations of these legendary designs. So I certainly have an appreciation for that aspect. It’s just that I would never want that to be all that new Trek can ever be. First and foremost it’s a TV show for me, an artistic creation, not actual history. And this is why I will always be more interested to see new people being brought on trying to show us their vision of Trek.

Witwer is astounding. Every once of Witwer's body language screams Shatner.
Agreed, he was really good in replicating Shatner’s mannerisms. There was just one shot where I felt he walked a little funky …

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What’s he doing with his arms? :lol:
 
You know, I wasn't really all that impressed with this when I first saw it a few days ago, but with everyone (and I do mean everyone) on both sides of the aisle in Trek fandom gushing over this and how amazing it is, I decided to give it another crack, and you know what?

My reaction still remains "meh."

I dunno. Everyone seems to love this, so that's nice I guess, but this does nothing for me. It has no emotional resonance with me. Maybe I'm dead inside, maybe I have no soul, but this is just flat and dull to me. Sorry.
 
You know, I wasn't really all that impressed with this when I first saw it a few days ago, but with everyone (and I do mean everyone) on both sides of the aisle in Trek fandom gushing over this and how amazing it is, I decided to give it another crack, and you know what?

My reaction still remains "meh."

I dunno. Everyone seems to love this, so that's nice I guess, but this does nothing for me. It has no emotional resonance with me. Maybe I'm dead inside, maybe I have no soul, but this is just flat and dull to me. Sorry.
Well, I for one am with you on that one. I doesn’t do much for me either, despite being super beautiful to look at. So maybe we’re both dead inside, haha. I do try to be mindful of what this is, though: A glorified fan production and an entirely free gift from Trek fans to Trek fans worldwide. So I just can’t and don’t want to be too hard on it.
 
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