Think it's simply because they wanted to use a new design for the Enterprise-G and like Night Shyamalan in his movies, letting us see it all the time without realizing it until the finale.
Spoilers The reason for the refit of the Titan
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Why not scuttle the Titan and do the new ship reveal, like they did in Voyager? It would preserve the heroic name of Titan.
It was because Matalas liked Bill Krause’s Shangri-La ship (which I can totally understand) and wanted to replicate it for the hero ship in PIC season 3 despite its anachronistic design that no other Starfleet ships share. And yes, the plan the whole time was obviously to make it the new Enterprise in the most convoluted way possible. I think you’re giving Matalas too much credit for being ‘clever,’ though.
The ironic thing is, now that it seems that Enterprises only last for ten years or so, the reveal of the Enterprise-G is ultimately hollow because we’ll be getting the Ent-H in 2411, just in time for Federation Day.
The ironic thing is, now that it seems that Enterprises only last for ten years or so, the reveal of the Enterprise-G is ultimately hollow because we’ll be getting the Ent-H in 2411, just in time for Federation Day.
But it doesn’t look 90% like the original Excelsior, only with updated nacelles.
Okay what the hell is a anachronism?
a person or a thing that is chronologically out of place
especially : one from a former age that is incongruous in the present
By the time I reached my teens, the housewife was an anachronism, replaced on television by the perky, glamorous, character of That Girl, Marlo Thomas, who kept her boyfriend at bay in the interest of pursuing her acting career.
—Joyce Maynard
Someone in a movie about the Old West wearing a digital watch.
But enought about Back to the Future.
NX-01 - 10 Years
TOS Enterprise - 40
Enterprise-A - 7-8
Enterprise-B - Unknown
Enterprise-C - Unknown
Enterprise-D - 8
Enterprise-E - at most 13 (if going by the audio logs)
Enterprise-F - 15 (If going by the Audio logs)
On average, Enterprises do not stay in service that long. The TOS Enterprise is the outlier, but it also got a complete overhaul 3/4 through its life.
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Complete overhaul is a bit of an understatement, more like a total rebuild. As much of a pedantic jerk as he is, Bernd did a good job analyzing the “refit” and estimated at most only the original core space frame and structures may have survived from TOS to TMP.
I personally subscribe to the idea that the E-A is the Yorktown, NCC-1717, in which case the ship itself was probably about 25 years old at retirement as the Enterprise.
I know it is not canon, it came close, but not close enough.
I personally subscribe to the idea that the E-A is the Yorktown, NCC-1717, in which case the ship itself was probably about 25 years old at retirement as the Enterprise.
I know it is not canon, it came close, but not close enough.
Using the "refit" moniker isnt really right. Just a redesignation. They didn't change anything on the space frame. And Refit definition has been abused this series.
But, Terry wanted an enterprise I guess. He got it.
Excelsior 2 has some design elements but looks liked a 25th century ship.
Connie 3 is just a 23rd century design with new nacelles.
But, Terry wanted an enterprise I guess. He got it.
Excelsior 2 has some design elements but looks liked a 25th century ship.
Connie 3 is just a 23rd century design with new nacelles.
Let's put this in a bit more perspective:
Was decommissioned for no known reason (other than the real-world reason). No new Enterprise for 80 years.
Morrow wanted the ship decommissioned because it was '20 years old' (which wasn't remotely the case.)
We have no idea if the A was a brand-new ship or an older ship renamed. Either way, decommissioning it at the end of TUC out of nowhere made no sense.
Considering that there were plenty of other Excelsiors still in service by TNG/DS9/VOY, the only logical assumption is that the B was destroyed or lost rather than decommissioned.
Was prematurely destroyed.
Was prematurely destroyed.
Was prematurely ?
Was prematurely ready for decommissioning for no apparent reason.
So it's not that they don't stay in service long; it's that there's no rhyme or reason for their lifespans ending.
Was decommissioned for no known reason (other than the real-world reason). No new Enterprise for 80 years.
Morrow wanted the ship decommissioned because it was '20 years old' (which wasn't remotely the case.)
We have no idea if the A was a brand-new ship or an older ship renamed. Either way, decommissioning it at the end of TUC out of nowhere made no sense.
Considering that there were plenty of other Excelsiors still in service by TNG/DS9/VOY, the only logical assumption is that the B was destroyed or lost rather than decommissioned.
Was prematurely destroyed.
Was prematurely destroyed.
Was prematurely ?
Was prematurely ready for decommissioning for no apparent reason.
So it's not that they don't stay in service long; it's that there's no rhyme or reason for their lifespans ending.
Its called neo-class constitution....correct??
Im thinking you may be right. They gave it more of a "traditional" Enterprise config and aesthetic.
The events of TATV take place after the Romulan War, in case there was confusion.
The NX-01 refit was planned for Season 5 of Enterprise, so it was gonna happen.
Connie 3 class, Riker refers to it as a Neo Constitution but the Titanoprise dedication plaque is clear it’s a Constitution III class
really? First I’ve heard of that.
