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The quality of DS9 DVD:s again and how angry I am now!

I think it's really your retailer's job to get a good set of discs for you. They're the ones you paid.
 
Can't say I ever encountered any of these problems with my Deep Space Nine DVDs. Some of the earlier season had problems with the inner ring of the discs breaking apart, but all discs remained playable.

Have you ever thought about streaming the show? In Germany Netflix features all Star Trek shows as of now.
 
I think it's really your retailer's job to get a good set of discs for you. They're the ones you paid.
I agree, maybe Lynx should email someone else? I know someone had problems with... Dr Who discs I think? They sent like 3 copies because the earlier ones weren't playable.

I'll leave my own strong opinions about backing up my discs out of this...

But Netflix is a good option! Here they air on TV so often I don't think I'd ever buy them.
 
This thread has inspired me to do a DS9 marathon. I'm watching my DS9 DVDs for the first time in years on a big screen TV, played on a bluray player. The upscaling is horrible. I just finished watching The Emissary and the picture is disgustingly bad in some scenes, while other scenes are half decent. I sincerely hope they re-release DS9 on bluray someday but I can't say I believe it'll happen anytime soon.
 
While I sympathize with your plight, I have to ask that you refrain from discussing illegal means of viewing as it potentially opens us up to liability. Thanks.
Anyway, as I tried to watch the season 5 episode
Again!
It played even worse!:censored:
I went to Amazon and
Bought another season 5.
If this one stops playing at the same place again, alas I'll be no more as my head will explode.:wah:
 
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It's not illegal to rip your dvds to your computer, is it? As long as you don't share them, of course. I'm no lawyer, so I don't know.

Anyways, it seems like ripping them and storing them on a spare hd might be your best bet.
If the discs themselves can't read properly, then this probably won't work right.

Kor
 
It's not illegal to rip your dvds to your computer, is it? As long as you don't share them, of course. I'm no lawyer, so I don't know.

Anyways, it seems like ripping them and storing them on a spare hd might be your best bet.
I think this might depend on where you live. In the UK, I believe it is still illegal just like ripping your own CDs is, but I don't know about everywhere. (Though one that nobody bothers with, and unless the law has changed in the past few years.)
If the discs themselves can't read properly, then this probably won't work right.

Kor

I've had discs that won't play on a cheap dvd player, but would play on a reasonable DVD ROM, so it might be possible.
 
I have had the R1 DVD set for over ten years and never had any tech issues. For DVDs from 2003, they’re decent IMO. At least it looked fine when I watched on my last CRT monitor. Of course watching on a 4KTV these days doesn’t compliment it, but it is what it is. I just tell myself this is as good as anyone would have watched at the time they aired, if not marginally better
 
I think it's really your retailer's job to get a good set of discs for you. They're the ones you paid.
Well, my retailer are doing all they can to help me in this matter.

Tomorrow I will send back my box and get a new one in return. Obviously that box is of a later produced batch.

But what can the retailer do if Paramount continues to send over substandard crap to Europe? If the retailer have 20 DS9 boxes and all of them are of substandard quality, then the retailer can hardly be blamed.

The only thing that my retailer can do if the new box have same substandard discs as the previuous one is to sue Paramount for selling substandard crap, thus cheating the people who actually love the show they once produced.
 
Well, my retailer are doing all they can to help me in this matter.

Tomorrow I will send back my box and get a new one in return. Obviously that box is of a later produced batch.

But what can the retailer do if Paramount continues to send over substandard crap to Europe? If the retailer have 20 DS9 boxes and all of them are of substandard quality, then the retailer can hardly be blamed.

The only thing that my retailer can do if the new box have same substandard discs as the previuous one is to sue Paramount for selling substandard crap, thus cheating the people who actually love the show they once produced.

That sounds totally crappy.
The company sold junk to your retailer too.
He/she must be mad too.
I had bought my DS9 years ago from Amazon.com in a box set of the entire series, used. They were cheap so I wasn't all that upset that some were scratched.
But just through the years they have gotten worse. (I'm probably not a good DVD owner:()
I'm not sure where you live but it sounds like you don't have a lot of other options available, which sucks.
Watching the shows last night without freeze frames and pictulations was amazing. :bolian:
 
Can't say I ever encountered any of these problems with my Deep Space Nine DVDs. Some of the earlier season had problems with the inner ring of the discs breaking apart, but all discs remained playable.

Have you ever thought about streaming the show? In Germany Netflix features all Star Trek shows as of now.
Netflix is out of the question for now.

1. I have to pay more for watching Netflix than I have for buying and owning the DVD:s. I started my DS9 marathon in the fall of 2017 when I bought the box ( I had bought the first 4 seasons and experienced certain problems long before that) and finished my DS9 marathion in the fall of 2018. Imagine the cost for Netflix during that time compared to the price for owning the series on DVD.

2. Netflix has the bad habit of suddenly remove certain shows from its program. Imagine if I'm in the middlle of a DS9 marathon and all of a sudden when I want to watch a certain episode it's "sorry but this show is not available anymore".

3. I hate to be dependent of a certain channel or Internet site when it comes to informatrion, watchin and so on. To many times I have discovered that certain sites have the ability to dissapear when I've been dependent of the content of that site. I want to be in control of what I need.

4. I have bought season 1 of Deep Space Nine 3 times. I have bought season 2 and 3 once and then I have bought the box which I'm about to return. I do think that Paramount owe me discs which not starts malfunctioning during the first or second time I watch it. Whatr Paramount is doing to us fans is downright cheating and I I find it unworthy for such a big company to treat their fans that way. I don't think that I have to pay bfor stuff I've already paid foor.
 
That sounds totally crappy.
The company sold junk to your retailer too.
He/she must be mad too.
I had bought my DS9 years ago from Amazon.com in a box set of the entire series, used. They were cheap so I wasn't all that upset that some were scratched.
But just through the years they have gotten worse. (I'm probably not a good DVD owner:()
I'm not sure where you live but it sounds like you don't have a lot of other options available, which sucks.
Watching the shows last night without freeze frames and pictulations was amazing. :bolian:

I live in Sweden which is not the best country to live in when it comes to Star Trek and similar entertainment.
The last Trek show which was available to watch here was "Enterprise" back in 2000. After that it has only been the NuTrek movies, no reruns of TOS, TNG, DS9 or Voyager. Nothing!

In fact, when they aired DS9 on one of my channels back in 1997, they only aired season 1, nothing more. It's therefore it has taken me so long to watch the whole series and the only way to do so was to buy the DVD:s.

My original plan was to buy the seasons one by one just to hve the time to watch them. But then I discovered all the problems with them. All my problems are decribed in a previous post. The link to that can be found in the OP of this thread.

As for my retailer, it's a respected and reliable company. I've bought a lot of stuff from them since the 90's, music CD:s and DVD's from other series and movies. I have had no problems with anything I bought from them until I encountered the problems with the DS9 DVD:s and some TNG DVD:s as well.

Now I will get a new box instead of this old one. But I have no illusions because the reviews on Amazon about the newer US-produced box weren't positive to say the least and I don't expect the boxes sent to Europe to be in a better condition. But I will try and see what happens.

If this fails, next step will be to buy an US box without European language subtexts. Fortunately I do have a region-free DVD player. Otherwise that option would have been unavailable too.

If that doesn't work out, well then my only legal option will be to sue Paramount.
 
---Paramount is doing to us fans is downright cheating and I I find it unworthy for such a big company to treat their fans that way. I don't think that I have to pay bfor stuff I've already paid for/-----

I agree. Like I said, I bought my first set used, but I paid a lot for the one I just bought a few days ago.
So the first thing I did was put on the Rapture episode.
If it was messed up with the new one, I don't know what I would have done. :censored:
I don't do Netflicks or any of that other stuff.
I only have "over the air " free TV.
I have a computer for my job and my phone.
That's it.
I'm old and old school. :hugegrin:

Maybe if you are ever in the USA or have a friend coming here they could buy the videos for you. It used to be that DVD players could easily be switched from region 1 or 2 to either the other region or region free. So that may or may not be a problem.
 
Sorry, I can't find one single complete DS9 episode on Youtube, only short clips like "favorite Garak moments" or "first fight with the Dominion".

In times of Netflix & Co. I guess they don't tolerate whole movies and TV show episodes uploaded on YouTube.... They want to make money with milking the fans. I'm out. I don't want to pay for something I've already paid.
 
In times of Netflix & Co. I guess they don't tolerate whole movies and TV show episodes uploaded on YouTube.... They want to make money with milking the fans. I'm out. I don't want to pay for something I've already paid.
Well, I've already done that as you can see in my previous post.

I'm actually ready to cough up a nice sum of money again if I get DVD:s which are functioning and will continue to do so.

But I don't want to pay a lot of money for crap over and over and over and over and over again.
 
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Well, I've already done that as you can see in my previous post.

I'm actually ready to cough up a nice sum of money again if I get DVD:s which are functioning and will continue to do so.

But I don't want to pay a lot of money for crap over and over and over and over anmd over again.

Write down a list of episodes giving you issues and then I'll let you know what I can find for you via pm.
 
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