The Punisher-- Marvel/Netflix

[Reverend]

Interesting that they're casting Micro as an alphabet intelligence type turned whistleblower. Somehow that feels a little more appropriate for the times than the comic book version. IIRC the gist of it was that he was a hacker in the 80's who wound up getting involved with Kingpin's business interests or some-such. I suppose they can still use some of that to flesh out his background, just switch out Kingpin for the CIA and have them recruit him. (addendum: I'm not sure AoS ever said Micro was explicitly a part of Rising Tide, just a contact of Daisy's in the darkweb.)

With an apparent focus on shady black-ops and cover-ups, I wonder if there'll be any peripheral crossover with anything vaguely SHIELD related. Or, alternatively given the Afghanistan connection: The Ten Rings? Incidentally, Karen's role suddenly seems to make a lot more sense now!

 

[Turtletrekker]

Turk!

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Excellent!

But will Claire make an appearance?

 

[Christopher]

But will Claire make an appearance?

No, she won't: http://ew.com/tv/2017/04/22/the-punisher-claire-temple/

It looks like Karen Page and Turk Barrett will be the only crossover characters (aside from Castle himself).

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Damn, that's too bad. There goes her streak.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Points for using Metallica and not "Hurt" (much as I like the man in black).

 

[Christopher]

Here's the trailer:

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I think I was wrong about Karen and Turk being the only familiar supporting characters. I think that was ADA Tower at the end there.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Ah, you beat me by three minutes.

I'm still not completely sold by the show. I've never been a fan of the Punisher, and while I really enjoyed Jon Bernthal's performance in the second season of Daredevil, the level of violence is pretty extreme. I know there's more to it than sheer violence but I'm not sure if it's something I'll really enjoy. I'll still check it out and see how it goes, but I'm not expecting the same kind of nuance as Jessica Jones or Luke Cage (or even the first season of Daredevil).

Weird they still haven't revealed the release date, while alluding to the fact that they haven't by obscuring it at the end of the trailer.

 

[Christopher]

I'm still not completely sold by the show. I've never been a fan of the Punisher, and while I really enjoyed Jon Bernthal's performance in the second season of Daredevil, the level of violence is pretty extreme. I know there's more to it than sheer violence but I'm not sure if it's something I'll really enjoy. I'll still check it out and see how it goes, but I'm not expecting the same kind of nuance as Jessica Jones or Luke Cage (or even the first season of Daredevil).

Yeah, this is not my cup of tea. Normally I'm a completist about the MCU, but this is one show I'm not sure I want to watch.

 

[Borgminister]

Oh, I'm there. Hoping the story line is as compelling as the backstory itself.

 

[JD]

I really liked the stuff with The Punisher in Daredevil Season 2, so I'm really curious about this, but I do have the same hesitation as @Emh and @Christopher. I'm not a fan of the kind of extreme violence this appears to have in it, but I can deal with it if there's interesting characters and a good story to go along with it. I'll give this a try, but if it doesn't hit the right balance for me, I'll probably stop watching.

 

[Captain Craig]

The only thing as a purist I didn't like was that Mrs.Castle(and the kids?) get snuffed at home during what is sure to be a staged home invasion/robbery event vs in Central Park.
For all the Punisher adaptations to date and they still haven't done this simple thing is just a head scratcher and yet been pretty good with other properties.

I'm still excited for it, don't get me wrong.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The only thing as a purist I didn't like was that Mrs.Castle(and the kids?) get snuffed at home during what is sure to be a staged home invasion/robbery event vs in Central Park.
For all the Punisher adaptations to date and they still haven't done this simple thing is just a head scratcher and yet been pretty good with other properties.

We already know they were killed on the Merry-Go-Around per Daredevil. What we see in the trailer is probably Frank re-experiencing the trauma through dreaming.

 

[JD]

Yeah, we got at least one or two flashbacks to them in Central Park leading up to Frank's families deaths in Daredevil.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Great trailer.

I'm not a huge fan of the Punisher as an protagonist either, but if they give Jon Bernthal material as good as they gave him in DD S2 then it will be worth watching for the character work alone.

 

[Captain Craig]

Yeah, we got at least one or two flashbacks to them in Central Park leading up to Frank's families deaths in Daredevil.

I totally had forgot about those sequences in DD S2. Thanks for that reminder.

 

[kitik]

So apparently there's a rumor going around that this show might drop on October 13. Much earlier than anyone expected, and just 3 weeks from today!

That said, it's definitely unconfirmed.

A surprise netflix release like that would probably be a great way to generate hype though.

 

[JD]

I don't know, it seem pretty unlikely they'd be able to keep a release that close quite.

 

[FPAlpha]

Well, it said 2017 at the end (with the exact date garbled) so anything is possible.

I am definitely looking forward to this, besides Daredevil this is the best adaptation of a character in the Netflix shows to date. Jessica Jones had the best villain, Luke Cage the coolest villain (at least in the first half.. Cottonmouth was just cool) and Iron Fist was.. well, let's skip that.

The Punisher for me is a brilliant character because he gets to show us a mirror.. are we ok with what he does (he only goes after extreme criminals and deals with them permanently)? And what does that say about us?
The Garth Ennis run on Punisher was some of the best i ever read in comics and this version was translated so well into the show with Bernthal playing him so well.

So hyperviolence or not (I'm guessing the former) i look forward to a good story and good characters to balance out the inevitable blood and gore.

So as Frank Castle said to Matt Murdoch "You are one bad day away from becoming me!"

 

[Christopher]

So as Frank Castle said to Matt Murdoch "You are one bad day away from becoming me!"

Well, that's what the Joker said to Batman and Commissioner Gordon in The Killing Joke, essentially, and he was wrong. Heck, Batman is the result of one bad day, but he turned that bad day into an incentive to do good, not just an excuse to destroy.