The proposed Season 5

[Sci]

I was referring to the Duffy from "Hollow Pursuits," who became a regular character in the SCE series. And the fact that Duffy wasn't a primary character in the canon is irrelevent, because the issue postulated was not whether or not Trek Lit has a tendency to bring primary canonical characters back to life, but whether or not Trek Lit has a tendency to bring primary characters in general back to life. Corps of Engineers is a regular, ongoing TrekLit series, so the creative decisions made in that series with regard to its primary characters are as relevent as those made in any of the post-series continuations of TNG, DS9, ENT, or VOY.

 

[Kegek]

Sci said:
I was referring to the Duffy from "Hollow Pursuits," who became a regular character in the SCE series. And the fact that Duffy wasn't a primary character in the canon is irrelevent, because the issue postulated was not whether or not Trek Lit has a tendency to bring primary canonical characters back to life, but whether or not Trek Lit has a tendency to bring primary characters in general back to life.

Actually, it's very relevant. We're talking about a minor character with little-to-no personality, who was probably fleshed out in the novel series, and was certainly also killed off in the novel series.

Decisions like resurrecting Tucker and Kirk stem from a disastifaction with the way TPTB handled things that the novelists share. I would assume that those who killed Duffy are still writing novels in this series or support the decision. In addition to which fanbase support for Duffy would have been strictly confined to the reading public, and specificially the subset that reads these novels.

This isn't TrekLit, so let's try to keep the conversation on guys like that.

 

[commodore64]

As cool as Shran is, he can't save a series. Trip needed some major straightening out. His character turned whiny and unsympathetic in season 4. T'Pol went from interesting to "WTF is going on with her?" Mayweather was boring. I think the series was doomed on its current heading no matter what happened.

 

[HRHTheKING]

ENT would have improved in the fifth season if Archer, T'Porn, Phlox, Reed, Trip, Hoshi, and Travis all died and the ship gained a new and hopefully better written crew.

 

[Praetor]

Poor Anthony Montgomery. He never had anything to do on that show. I hope he fired his agent.

In fact, I hope most of them fired their agents.

That said, I think if there had been a fifth season, it would have been more fanwank-type stuff that would have been applauded until towards the end, when we would have gotten sick of it. There probably wouldn't have been a sixth season.

 

[LadyNRA]

J47 said:
Now, I don't doubt this has been discussed ad nauseum, but I noticed that Memory Alpha has a somewhat extensive section on what might have happened. Many of these I was already familiar with (Kzinti, Shran on the Enterprise), but there was extensive (and, unfortunately, unsourced) discussion of a proposed two-parter called "The Treatment" that would've featured Guinan and Sarek's father. Does anyone know where I could find more information about this, or indeed, about other proposed ideas for Season 5?

There was a plan for Enterprise Comics. I met a man at the Vegas con this year who said that the biggest problem was getting Scott Bakula to approve his image (or something along those lines). My response was, as expected, "so sideline the captain" and move on with the rest of the characters. If Bakula wouldn't allow them to use his image (or perhaps it was his agent, I don't know) without his approval, then put him in stasis, give them an acting captain, and let them move on with their missions! He said he was tempted. But legally, he won't do anything he's not supposed to (and who could blame him) so he shelved the project for now.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Praetor said:
Poor Anthony Montgomery. He never had anything to do on that show. I hope he fired his agent.

Nah, he still got paid pretty good and didn't have to work as much as some other cast members. Sounds like it paid off well.

 

[CommanderRaytas]

pookha said:
the end part of season three got better ratings then the end part of season two so the ratings before the shift to friday were on an upswing.
plus the show got hurt bad by the weekend showings not being counted in the ratings, something they just started doing this season for shows.

Really? I didn't know that. During late season 3 and early season 4, I was living in the US and I only ever watched ENT on the weekends...but I watched every single episode.

Makes you wonder whether there weren't more of us, then...