-= The Project =-

[Madkoifish]

I doubt it as the thing I am referring to does not detach from the hull. I am referring to the pink thing in the image not anything ON the lifeboat itself. I first thought it was some sort of self contained power module to launch the pods but across the ship there are lone pods lacking this shapes on either side so that sort of defeats the logic. Either case I have modeled those things anyhow and am spinning them with the boats on the hull.

Then again they all lift with internal thrust so who knows what that shape is.

 

[Madkoifish]

Rough nacelle idea. Of course the thying will get borken up more and debating on the glowy bits. Small rod half way through with glossy bits to reflect the light like on my wedgetrek bussards, or go for a more glow element thing. And if I should try to mimic that lightbulb thing where they had those hotspots sometimes in the engines. ATM it is just a cyl with glow added that is only near the front end.





Oh to note too the lifeboats on the bottom saucer are temp. I have not decided how that inner ring will be laid out so I left it fully populated.

 

[ashleytinger]

Oh anyone have any idea what the quadrilateral thing is between the lifeboats on the sovereign?

Could it be something like a maglock keeping the escape pod locked in since these models don't have hatches covering them? Or could it be something to guide the pod in to lock kind of like they had with the Apollo missions and hooking up with the lander for manual connections?

 

[Madkoifish]

er mag lock I doubt as it is next to the unit, again I refer to the pink shape next to the pod not on it or IN the recess. I would think they are mechanically latched in the legs, but that circle is suspect. A possible docking beacon or field tractor maybe but size does not seem to fit as most known tractors are visual systems (emitter and lumpy bits)

Biggest issue is they do not exist for singular pods on the SOV. So I think it is just a detail. So far all I have gotten are presumptions or guessing. I had hoped there was some official designation of some sort be it any print or other manner. Reason is it would help me define it more than just a quadrilateral poly.

As for my best guess I would think maybe it is some sort of shield emitter to allow a shielded lift off for each pod to avoid collision and OR allow a unbroken coverage of the surrounding hull plate shield grid. This would allow single pods to not require it as they might be small enough to not disrupt the field integrity or worry to collide with a neighbor pod?
For now I just made rounded off quadpolys ;p

 

[ashleytinger]

er mag lock I doubt as it is next to the unit, again I refer to the pink shape next to the pod not on it or IN the recess. I would think they are mechanically latched in the legs, but that circle is suspect. A possible docking beacon or field tractor maybe but size does not seem to fit as most known tractors are visual systems (emitter and lumpy bits)

Biggest issue is they do not exist for singular pods on the SOV. So I think it is just a detail. So far all I have gotten are presumptions or guessing. I had hoped there was some official designation of some sort be it any print or other manner. Reason is it would help me define it more than just a quadrilateral poly.

As for my best guess I would think maybe it is some sort of shield emitter to allow a shielded lift off for each pod to avoid collision and OR allow a unbroken coverage of the surrounding hull plate shield grid. This would allow single pods to not require it as they might be small enough to not disrupt the field integrity or worry to collide with a neighbor pod?
For now I just made rounded off quadpolys ;p

I realized after I posted it what you were talking about. I need more coffee in the mornings before I start posting apparently lol

Yeah I have no idea what those would be. I do like your guesses there though.

 

[Madkoifish]

RRRRR coffee been trying not to give in to that urge given it is 4am here hah. I have not found anything online so far. Found these latter ships have much less info out there.

 

[ashleytinger]

RRRRR coffee been trying not to give in to that urge given it is 4am here hah. I have not found anything online so far. Found these latter ships have much less info out there.

I don't know if they didn't think it through or maybe they figured because the films were kind of detached from the series at that point they didn't need to go into it that much. I don't think we ever see a Sovereign in Deep Space Nine in any of the battles at all. We never got an updated technical manual for the TNG films either I don't think. I might be remembering wrong.

I googled it, they have one on a technical readout on DS9 and that's it.

 

[Arvis Taljik]

Chances are it's a meaningless greeble designed to make the pattern of lifeboats look more uniform. Simply a raised hull panel is all.

 

[Madkoifish]

Glowy bits installed even thought it is not Thursday yet. It is all rough subdiv still so details are lacking and to me some shape is missing too. They are pretty conventional as well. I do plan to add "junk" into the bussard area to reflect all the light about but not sure if the diffused glass material will show it as well as the more transparent glossy domes on for example the wedgetrek model.







And yeah NCC-98100 or NX-98100 is not in use so I will probably take it.

 

[Madkoifish]

Refinements and bits. I am reconsidering those gold things as they never showed up again after the Galaxy style nacelle. Though I dunno what to use there instead. >_> Also thinking maybe I should look to add some creases to the hull itself vs this amorphous curvature.










Ok alternate idea and I think one I am going with. It will need tightening up as some of the loops near the back end are a bit too far apart.

 

[Madkoifish]

Mess of small updates and parts replacement.

 

[Madkoifish]

Keep messing with the ships backside. Replaced that roundy thing with some superstructure. Originally I had the idea of making a awacs like sensor array there for recording sensor data about the warp field during tests etc. Really not sure about the whole back end below the saucer decks.

 

[SITZKRIEG!]

Well back at this thing. SO means I am taking a bit of a break from that shuttle. It is kind of odd going back to a old mesh and figuring out where you were headed when you dumped it. Looking this thing over there is a mess of things I want to do differently but I just do not have the time to blank out large sections of the ship. One being the short aft end, it is very compact compared to the front half. But then again Klingon ships have that odd look to them in perspective vs top down or from the side as perspective distorts size. I do think i will have to adjust the color of this thing to have it's details be more visible to the viewer.

I definitely like your designs especially the klingon one above as well as your take on the Discovery (much better than the official one we saw) and your Romulan ship. You don't see enough folks working on non-Federation fan designs so it's good to see yours! Would you mind if I used some views for a free stat sheet for the old FASA miniatures game on my blog? (sitzkrieg.blogspot.com)

 

[Madkoifish]

More work with the backside of the ship. Got carried away and remembered that i need warp core hatches. As the lower hull has no space for a core due to the complex deflector systems I decided somewhere in the neck is where the core will sit. Debate is horizontal or vertical. Vertical I have a max of 100ft in length. horizontal I have as much as I really need. The pink bits are 6ft dai placeholders. Given cores are random in trek, (sov and defiant were odd cluster deals) I am just generalizing a cyl shape. I think Voyager was much smaller more like 3~4ft dai. I have also decided on these top side ports over anything below as nothing below would allow clear ejection without possibility of hitting things.

 

[Wingsley]

Madkoifish,

This newest project of yours is fascinating, but I am a little confused...

Are you designing this TNG / post-TNG ship to be just one size, or are you imagining it at two distinct scales? It looks like you can envision this as some future-trek successor of the Galaxy-class, only significantly larger, and also as a much "smaller" version that would be sized between VOY's Intrepid-class and STFC's Sovereign-class.

Whatever the scale, it is a fresh concept. Very elegant overall shape.

Would like to see this concept with a hybrid TNG and STFC Main Dish design. That's just me.

Two questions on my mind...

1: Are you active on DeviantArt?
2: Do you do commissions?

 

[Madkoifish]

It says in the thread I have had to resize it as I disliked the smaller size. It is 450 or 460m give or take now.
No I left DA, got sick of the notification spam and attitude.
Not really. If I were to do a ship commission no one could afford it.


Got sick so updates are a bit slow. Also spend a lot of time redoing work as I kept changing my mind on small details on the bridge as I was collapsing the mesh and cleaning it up.











As I am laying out the bridge decks and surrounding this one is going to be a bit odd as most canon ships the conference room is just off the bridge, or a short walk. Here if I keep it in the same deck it will end up down a hall past some offices. SO I have to mull over if I want to make it closer in and push those offices back instead. It does mean no really fancy windows though. The ones that are in atm are on the B deck.

 

[ashleytinger]

Instead of in the back could you have the conference room face front?

Might mean a bit of reconfiguring again though

 

[Madkoifish]

Ok posting mostly to update and document the ship registry.
First line of this ship will be 79900~79908 Fist ship of class will appear as NX-79900 then later NCC-79900.
I decided to lower the number as 98100 seemed a bit too high.


one thing I have not done anything about is a docking collar. nothing saying I need one on the upper side of the ship. Just dawning on me I have not thought of such as of yet.

 

[Madkoifish]

Instead of in the back could you have the conference room face front?

Might mean a bit of reconfiguring again though

No room, it would require it being on B deck without exterior changes. ATM I am not willing to alter shapes as they are all locked down any structural changes would require going back to sibdivision level. I have already done that for these superstructure objects. I am not keen on forward windows on the same deck as the bridge either.

I know it is kinda hard to see volume as you are all looking at a flat image where I have the cheater ability to see it in 3d >_>

I will likely use those large upper aft windows or do a side by side roof window style directly below that marker light. i will likely add those wrap over windows there anyhow. It really will only depend on what I stuck in the windows what the room is! hahah.

Either way lots of things will be on the A deck it seems.

 

[ashleytinger]

No room, it would require it being on B deck without exterior changes. ATM I am not willing to alter shapes as they are all locked down any structural changes would require going back to sibdivision level. I have already done that for these superstructure objects. I am not keen on forward windows on the same deck as the bridge either.

I know it is kinda hard to see volume as you are all looking at a flat image where I have the cheater ability to see it in 3d >_>

I will likely use those large upper aft windows or do a side by side roof window style directly below that marker light. i will likely add those wrap over windows there anyhow. It really will only depend on what I stuck in the windows what the room is! hahah.

Either way lots of things will be on the A deck it seems.

Yeah I know all about spacing on 3D versus the 2D render. I'm working on a sling for a character in Poser and a bridge set up that are giving me headaches. I figured you'd have to build something out and that can definitely be a pain. I do like where you put those other windows on the back, and the Ent D had a walk and ramp down to their conference room. Just because Voyager and the Ent E had them right off the bridge doesn't mean you have to Plus it's easier to keep people who shouldn't be on the bridge but are needed in the briefing to have it separated a bit.