The Post-Burn Galaxy thread or "Post-Apocalypse or Slightly Used?"
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That’s the joke.
Yeah, the show was making a lampshade hanging on, "We don't know who this character is because he's presumably someone of note from Starfleet history but not one that ever appeared in a show like 90% of the memorial wall."
Another bit of plot contrivance for me seems to be the motivations of the Vanari Ral. They seem to be powerful space pirates, with ship designs unique unto themselves, along with advanced applications of tachyon and programmable matter technology (active avoidance seeker mines that can disable another ship by overtaking it with a proprietary application of programmable matter...), yet they want to steal and sell off the warp cores of other ships?!
I'm sorry, but I'd have thought warp cores would be a literal dime-a-dozen sort of tech in the 32nd Century that a smart teenager could build in their basement. And considering the Vanari Ral have bespoke ships of their own then where are they getting their tech from???
It was probably supposed to be the "Pathfinder Drive" they were after.
But I expect somewhere in the production cycle someone decided nobody who hadn't seen the last episode of Discovery would know what that was so they changed it to Warp Drive.
Sure.
We all know the writers are idiots and hate Star Trek.
The Writer's aren't the smartest tulips in the field..
Some things are just like.. Huh? in Tng, they littery gave the old guy a portable replicator. hinting its not power hungry enough to need a/m power.
But 800 years latter theres a food shortage? WHY? THey didn't have A/M reactors.. Ok? But that just effects FTL flight mainly. Fusion reactors are a dime a dozen, DS9 was NOT A/m powered, just Fusion reactors. and got along just fine. Plenty of fuel in gas giants.. I mean.. ???
That and no comunications? Huh? don't need a reactor to breach subspace.
That and so many non warp technologys like Transwarp beaming, (Prime Mr. Scott done the formula) and a bunch of other stuff.
I mean it would suck in that places would become more isolated, but in system wouldn't change that much, power wouldn't be an issue, food no issue. etc.
I don't know..
Some things are just like.. Huh? in Tng, they littery gave the old guy a portable replicator. hinting its not power hungry enough to need a/m power.
But 800 years latter theres a food shortage? WHY? THey didn't have A/M reactors.. Ok? But that just effects FTL flight mainly. Fusion reactors are a dime a dozen, DS9 was NOT A/m powered, just Fusion reactors. and got along just fine. Plenty of fuel in gas giants.. I mean.. ???
That and no comunications? Huh? don't need a reactor to breach subspace.
That and so many non warp technologys like Transwarp beaming, (Prime Mr. Scott done the formula) and a bunch of other stuff.
I mean it would suck in that places would become more isolated, but in system wouldn't change that much, power wouldn't be an issue, food no issue. etc.
I don't know..
Does that make them idiots?
It's not just tech but people, knowledge and applications of the knowledge. You don't just pick up and soldier on after billions die, so you?
Well, I guess it is Star Trek. Billions dying should never get in the way of technology.
There would be a pause, a bit of time where things were in upheaval, but 100 years latter? Just like Utopia Planitia being destroyed, yes some upheaval, but 20 years latter its still a mess with ship production??Does that make them idiots?
It's not just tech but people, knowledge and applications of the knowledge. You don't just pick up and soldier on after billions die, so you?
Well, I guess it is Star Trek. Billions dying should never get in the way of technology.
By that time would have some semblance of order. Yet 100 years latter there was food shortages? Fights in system? Doesn't make much sense.
The big picture would probably be more complex than we can imagine,
Yeah... That really makes no sense given they figured out how to generate microwormholes for trans-galactic communications 800 years ago.
It's especially odd when you consider they rebuilt all those giant space stations we saw orbiting Earth in the first episode in the past 2 years.
Yup. The loss of key personnel, lack of trust, communication, all of it adds up.
Communication wouldn't have been gone.
Assuming both "relay" and "array" destruction they would have been locked to normal subspace radio speeds. Which, 800 years ago, was clocked at roughly 52,000x the speed of light. (Or about 6ly an hour)
Which, when you're used to instantaneous communication is hard, plus all the people who are dead!
Yes - this is pretty much all there is.
The Disco-Future is essentially the Kelvin timeline mark 2.
The inciting catastrophe (Vulcan/burn) is mainly there to explain the new, more conflict-heavy/emotional style. Not as a story itself.
I have serious memory ache going on.
Can anyone remember which potential showrunner pitched a new Trek series or film maybe 15 or 20 years ago set in a post-disaster Federation. Maybe an earlier time period, but the premise was about reconnecting lost colonies and outposts. IIRC it went into early development and was then dropped, possibly in favour of ST09. I remember reading about it. I'd like to read about it again.....Thanks if you can help.
EDIT - I found it. It's Bryan Singer and RMB's 2006 pitch for a series which
- Takes place in the 3000s
- A younger officer called Kirk gets promoted to Captain suddenly.
- There is an exodus of worlds from the Federation leaving only 20 systems in the Federation.
- There is an enemy called "The Scourge"
- Klingons have become more thoughtful but there is a crisis with them in episode 4
- The hero ship has a special engine and is trying to reconnect the Fed
Nothing but a coincidence then that Secret Hideout came up with something not that dissimilar.
Can anyone remember which potential showrunner pitched a new Trek series or film maybe 15 or 20 years ago set in a post-disaster Federation. Maybe an earlier time period, but the premise was about reconnecting lost colonies and outposts. IIRC it went into early development and was then dropped, possibly in favour of ST09. I remember reading about it. I'd like to read about it again.....Thanks if you can help.
EDIT - I found it. It's Bryan Singer and RMB's 2006 pitch for a series which
- Takes place in the 3000s
- A younger officer called Kirk gets promoted to Captain suddenly.
- There is an exodus of worlds from the Federation leaving only 20 systems in the Federation.
- There is an enemy called "The Scourge"
- Klingons have become more thoughtful but there is a crisis with them in episode 4
- The hero ship has a special engine and is trying to reconnect the Fed
Nothing but a coincidence then that Secret Hideout came up with something not that dissimilar.
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