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The Phantom Menace 3D Release

Agreed. "Balance" in Star Wars Force terminology means the light/good side dominates...and that there are no active, dangerous practicioners of the Dark Side trying to take over the galaxy. I.E. the Sith.

The novels ruin this since they keep introducing new Sith characters after the Emperor's death.

A lot of the novels are shit. There's no really polite way to put it. The less said about some of the New Republic and New Jedi Order novels the better.
 
Wait....at the end of RotS, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. There were two Siths (Sidious & Vader) and two Jedis (Yoda & Obi Wan) left . That's balance.

No, balance means no Sith, it was the creation of the Sith that made the inbalance in the first place.

Agreed. "Balance" in Star Wars Force terminology means the light/good side dominates...and that there are no active, dangerous practicioners of the Dark Side trying to take over the galaxy. I.E. the Sith.


another odd thing about the prophecy-the Jedi believed the Sith to be extinct, so why is there a prophecy that seems to involve destroying the Sith?
 
No, balance means no Sith, it was the creation of the Sith that made the inbalance in the first place.

Agreed. "Balance" in Star Wars Force terminology means the light/good side dominates...and that there are no active, dangerous practicioners of the Dark Side trying to take over the galaxy. I.E. the Sith.


another odd thing about the prophecy-the Jedi believed the Sith to be extinct, so why is there a prophecy that seems to involve destroying the Sith?

Maybe the prophecy isn't so much about the Sith specifically as it is about evil/the Dark Side in-general. The practicioners of the Dark Side don't necessarily have to be Sith Lords. Just my two cents' worth.
 
No, balance means no Sith, it was the creation of the Sith that made the inbalance in the first place.

Agreed. "Balance" in Star Wars Force terminology means the light/good side dominates...and that there are no active, dangerous practicioners of the Dark Side trying to take over the galaxy. I.E. the Sith.


another odd thing about the prophecy-the Jedi believed the Sith to be extinct, so why is there a prophecy that seems to involve destroying the Sith?

I don't recall any dialogue suggesting the Jedi thought the to be extinct. Mace Windu had his doubts but once Maul was exposed Mace changed his mind.
 
Agreed. "Balance" in Star Wars Force terminology means the light/good side dominates...and that there are no active, dangerous practicioners of the Dark Side trying to take over the galaxy. I.E. the Sith.

The novels ruin this since they keep introducing new Sith characters after the Emperor's death.

It's silly to think everyone would only choose the light side going forward...
 
It's silly to think everyone would only choose the light side going forward...
[QUOTE="Darth Plagueis" by James Luceno]He knew from his travels with and without Tenebrous that he wasn’t the galaxy’s sole practitioner of the dark side — nor Sith for that matter, since the galaxy was rife with pretenders — but he was now the only Sith Lord descended from the Bane line.[/QUOTE]
Works for me.
 
Agreed. "Balance" in Star Wars Force terminology means the light/good side dominates...and that there are no active, dangerous practicioners of the Dark Side trying to take over the galaxy. I.E. the Sith.


another odd thing about the prophecy-the Jedi believed the Sith to be extinct, so why is there a prophecy that seems to involve destroying the Sith?

I don't recall any dialogue suggesting the Jedi thought the to be extinct. Mace Windu had his doubts but once Maul was exposed Mace changed his mind.


I'm fairly sure there's a line about "the Sith being extinct for a millenium." Someone with more knowledge of TPM can back me up or contradict me.
 
I'm fairly sure there's a line about "the Sith being extinct for a millenium." Someone with more knowledge of TPM can back me up or contradict me.
Ki-Adi Mundi said it.

Agreed.

KI-ADI: "Impossible! The Sith have been extinct for a millennium!"

MACE: "I do not think the Sith could have returned without us knowing."

YODA: "Ahhhh...hard to see, the Dark Side is."
 
I'll ask this here instead of opening a new thread...

So what happened to the 'Rule of Two' in The Clone Wars? Maybe I'm missing something (most likely) but I count Sidious, Dooku, Ventress, Opress and Grievous all existing at the same time...
 
Only Sidious and Dooku are Sith. Ventress is a dark Jedi, Opress is a practitioner of the dark side and Grievious is a robot alien thing with no force powers at all.
 
Only Sidious and Dooku are Sith. Ventress is a dark Jedi, Opress is a practitioner of the dark side and Grievious is a robot alien thing with no force powers at all.

Yeah, only Sidious and Tyranus(Dooku) are Sith Lords. Ventress isn't one, nor is Savage Opress even though both use red-bladed Sith-like lightsabers. And Grievous is a former Kaleesh warlord who almost died in a shuttle crash and was revived with cybernetic technology(think an earlier, cruder version of Darth Vader). The Sith still operate as a order of two, but recruit Force-sensitive or combat-skilled allies to assist them in their plans.
 
Only Sidious and Dooku are Sith. Ventress is a dark Jedi, Opress is a practitioner of the dark side and Grievious is a robot alien thing with no force powers at all.

Yeah, only Sidious and Tyranus(Dooku) are Sith Lords. Ventress isn't one, nor is Savage Opress even though both use red-bladed Sith-like lightsabers. And Grievous is a former Kaleesh warlord who almost died in a shuttle crash and was revived with cybernetic technology(think an earlier, cruder version of Darth Vader). The Sith still operate as a order of two, but recruit Force-sensitive or combat-skilled allies to assist them in their plans.

I thought that was why it was there to begin with? All the people wielding the Force were hard to control...

Perhaps I should finish reading the book before commenting again... :lol:
 
Ultimately being a Sith Lord is having a title. More about authority than powers and abilities.

I can think of a number of real world examples. In the US government there are many politicians at different levels. But only one President. Same for military ranks.
 
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Anyways, the Sith get their name from a species of humanoids they conquered millennia ago after they were exiled from the Jedi Order and cast out into the depths of space. The name Sith has no great meaning other than referring to the two greatest masters of the Dark Side in the galaxy and that's about it. Think of it as a Jedi Order for pissed-off bad guys and that's about it in a nutshell...not much more complicated than that.

There are plenty of other beings in the SW universe who use the Dark Side for their own purposes, but Sidious and his ilk are the strongest and most skilled with it. As the Expanded Universe novels and comics set after ROTJ show(although I think a lot if not most of them completely suck), bad guys and evil still remain in the galaxy even after the Sith and the Empire are vanquished. Hell, there's even a clone of Emperor Palpatine and future Sith Lords of a revived, reborn order in some of these ludicrous stories.
 
The rule of two was established by Darth Bane, about a thousand years before TPM if I'm not mistaken. But according to the Darth Plagueis novel, neither Palpatine, nor Plagueis (nor even his master Tenebrous, for that matter), gave a damn about it.
 
Wait....at the end of RotS, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. There were two Siths (Sidious & Vader) and two Jedis (Yoda & Obi Wan) left . That's balance.

That's a balance of Jedi and Sith, not the balance of the Force. Jedi and Sith are not the Force, thus the balance of the Force is not a balance of Jedi and Sith.
 
The rule of two was established by Darth Bane, about a thousand years before TPM if I'm not mistaken. But according to the Darth Plagueis novel, neither Palpatine, nor Plagueis (nor even his master Tenebrous, for that matter), gave a damn about it.

I think Palpatine had just one formal/official apprentice at a time(Maul, Tyranus, Vader) but wasn't opposed to employing beings and persons who were exceptionally powerful with the Force to help achieve Imperial/Sith ends. That would certainly explain Asajj Ventress, bounty hunter Durge and Savage Opress during the Clone Wars and later Mara Jade and others in the Imperial era.
 
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