The Phantom Menace 3D Release
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I think the Emperor knew that Anakin didn't actually kill Padme with his Force-choke/strangle. But he needed to drive the final nail into Anakin's coffin and break him once and for all, and making Anakin think that he had killed his wife and their unborn child was the act that shattered Anakin's spirit to the point where all he felt he had left in the universe was Sidious. It was the moment he truly became Darth Vader...the moment he truly swore himself to the Sith. Because the Sith was all he had left in the universe.
The Jedi had betrayed him. Obi-Wan had betrayed him. Padme had betrayed him. And they were all now dead or fleeing for their lives. And to make matters all the worse, Anakin's beloved wife and child were now dead and lost forever. He was at the lowest moment of his life, and all he had left to give him strength and motivation to keep on living was the Dark Side of the Force.
The Jedi had betrayed him. Obi-Wan had betrayed him. Padme had betrayed him. And they were all now dead or fleeing for their lives. And to make matters all the worse, Anakin's beloved wife and child were now dead and lost forever. He was at the lowest moment of his life, and all he had left to give him strength and motivation to keep on living was the Dark Side of the Force.
The prophecy was stupid on its own before my re-writing of it. My re-writing of it was merely sarcasm.
the Jedi never betrayed him, he betrayed them. Are you referring to them asking him to spy on Palpy? I'm not sure what you're referring to.
No. I'm saying HE thought the Jedi betrayed him. I didn't mean that literally. I mean from Anakin's distorted point of view.
No, it's a generic prophecy which is no more stupid than any other prophecy encountered in fantasy fiction. Your case for its alleged stupidity rested solely on confusing it with Anakin's story arc.
the prophecy is bound up with his story arc though. He would never have been able to "fulfill" it had he not first become Palpy's right-hand man and helped him to slaughter millions. He only "destroyed the Sith" because Palpatine wasn't even paying attention to him.
Some fulfillment of prophecy.
So.. My 11 year old son and I finally saw it this weekend and were defeintely entertained.. 3D aside (it was ok.. I liked the realism it added to the purely CGI parts, to be sure), it was really great to see the movie in the theater again.
I haven't watched TPM in a long time, but it seems to me that some of the scenes were extended using deleted footage and lines (that are available on the DVDs), but I could be wrong.
I too came away with a new appreciation for the movie and it confirmed my belief that Ewan MacGregor was perfect for the Obi Wan role.
More to the point, my son got to see it on the big screen and was thrilled by it. Worth the price of admission right there! I told him to just wait until we see the original trilogy on the big screen... To that point, is there a schedule of release dates for all the movies?
I haven't watched TPM in a long time, but it seems to me that some of the scenes were extended using deleted footage and lines (that are available on the DVDs), but I could be wrong.
I too came away with a new appreciation for the movie and it confirmed my belief that Ewan MacGregor was perfect for the Obi Wan role.
More to the point, my son got to see it on the big screen and was thrilled by it. Worth the price of admission right there! I told him to just wait until we see the original trilogy on the big screen... To that point, is there a schedule of release dates for all the movies?
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IF things go as originally planned:
2013: Clones
2014: Sith
2015: A New Hope
2016: Empire
2017: Jedi
All will depend on how well Episode II does at this time next year. If it performs well things should be good for the rest of the films over the course of the next four years. If CLONES 3-D tanks, it could overturn all of the studio's and Lucas's plans. Only time will tell. Since CLONES is considered by many to be the worst and weakest of all six films a lot is gonna be riding on how well it does. This will be the real test of the franchise in 3-D, not Episode I.
IF things go as originally planned:
2013: Clones
2014: Sith
2015: A New Hope
2016: Empire
2017: Jedi
All will depend on how well Episode II does at this time next year. If it performs well things should be good for the rest of the films over the course of the next four years. If CLONES 3-D tanks, it could overturn all of the studio's and Lucas's plans. Only time will tell. Since CLONES is considered by many to be the worst and weakest of all six films a lot is gonna be riding on how well it does. This will be the real test of the franchise in 3-D, not Episode I.
Palpatine thought Vader was his forever or until he could replace him with Luke and Luke told him that he's over convidence would be his downfall.
Which was one of the things that helped turned Vader back into Anakin at the end. The knowledge that he was little more than a pawn in his Master's chess game and that he, like Maul and Dooku decades before, was just another placeholder for a more capable apprentice-in-waiting. Palpatine wanted Luke for his powers and his youth. He would have been everything Anakin failed to be after his crippling injuries and confinement to his life-support suit. And Vader knew that there could be only two Sith at any one time...there'd be no room or use for a cybernetic shell of a human being with Palpatine and a young, vigorous and powerful Luke ruling the galaxy. He was toast and he knew it. Fear of his impending demise coupled with a hidden but real love for his son were what turned him back to the Light Side of the Force at the end of his life.
MACE: "You refer to the prophecy of the message board where mundane, trivial things are treated like great emergencies...and you say it's this...'TrekBBS'?"
QUI-GON: "I don't presume to..."
YODA: "But you do! Revealed your geekiness is!"
QUI-GON: "I don't presume to..."
YODA: "But you do! Revealed your geekiness is!"
Wait....at the end of RotS, Anakin did bring balance to the Force. There were two Siths (Sidious & Vader) and two Jedis (Yoda & Obi Wan) left . That's balance.
No, balance means no Sith, it was the creation of the Sith that made the inbalance in the first place.
The novels ruin this since they keep introducing new Sith characters after the Emperor's death.
That's what a Jedi would have you believe. Misread the prophesy may have been.
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