The Outpost--new fantasy series

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Greg Cox, Jul 11, 2018.

  1. dodge

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    I wouldn't say it makes her ineffective, she fought one the most expertest swordsmen in the realm the first time, and she wasn't even trying to fight this time, I think the bigger problem there is that if she survives a "fatal" wound every other episode it cheapens any danger she gets into.

    Which doesn't exactly help the show since any plot suspense is already almost nonexistent. They've made rather blatant a bunch of future "revelations"... blacksmith is the Wolf, Gwynn is the One True Queen, those drugs help the plagueling infection and might be the cure...

    Still, it is becoming a bit of a guilty pleasure for me, I would by no means describe the show as good, but it's a fun way to kill 40 minutes.

    I do find it a bit surprising that this is an original show(I say original... cliched as heck, more like ;)) in the post GoT times when studios bought the rights to every fantasy book ever published, so it's got that going for it at least. :D
     
  2. Christopher

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    Wow, a lot happened this week. Practically all the secrets were revealed in quick succession -- Gwyn's identity, Talon's identity and connection to the Lukiri, the Smith/Wolf's identity, etc. Well, I guess there are still a couple of secrets, like Garrett and Gwyn's conspiracy against the First Order, which hasn't been brought up in weeks.

    I wouldn't have expected this much to come out in only the fifth episode. I'm guessing we're in for a short season, maybe 8-10 episodes.

    The fight choreography has improved since the pilot. That long single-take fight on top of the archway was a nice stunt sequence, although I'm not sure whether the static camera was a dull choice or an effective choice because it didn't distract from the stunt work.

    Anyway, I now think I had it backward when I said above that I thought the First Order was the ruling dictatorship and the Covenant was its military elite. It's the other way around.
     
  3. Greg Cox

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    Yep. So much happened in this ep that for a moment there I wondered whether next week was the finale.

    So what's the story with Withers' sidekick, the one who never speaks?
     
  4. Christopher

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    Hey, they could either pay the guy to deliver lines or pay for the CGI demon. ;)
     
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  5. Morpheus 02

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    My wife seems addicted to the show
    ..but Talon is just so bratty...and foolish.

    And yeah...if she gets seriously atabbwd one more time


    However I am VERY interested in where they go with Janzo... A sweet kind man..m
     
  6. Greg Cox

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    Fun episode last night, which certainly pushed the narrative along, while apparently introducing a new villain.

    The scene where "Gwen" revealed her true identity to the troop was nicely epic. I wonder: Is she going to remain "Gwen" to her close friends and associates or will she start going by the name "Rosamund"?

    I'm guessing the former.
     
  7. Christopher

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    In the scene with the troops, even after she'd outed herself as Princess Rosmund, Garret called her "Gwynn" when he cautioned her about dismounting. (Spellings from here.)

    And what a coincidence that those two guys standing right there in the front were both people she recognized from her childhood!
     
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  8. Greg Cox

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    Eventful episode last night. And who knew Greyskins were so tasty!
     
  9. Christopher

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    It's weird that they're on this every-other-week schedule lately.

    Interesting worldbuilding hint that the huge wall wasn't human-built. Maybe it'll turn out that the Blackbloods built it. Anyway, if they're setting up clues for future seasons, who knows if we'll ever see them paid off?
     
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  10. Enterprise is Great

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    The week on, week off schedule is really annoying.
     
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  11. Morpheus 02

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    So was that the season finale???

    Not a good way to end it (in terms of scheduling...high stakes however)...how are the ratings?
     
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    There's still 2 more episodes left.
     
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    One more ep to go and the body count is rising! Hope they don't leave us on a cliffhanger in next week's season finale.
     
  14. Christopher

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    Well, it's pretty obvious by now that colipsum will turn out to be the cure for plagueling infection.

    The visual effect for the dimensional rift when Talon summons the Lukiri is a really interesting design, a lot more elaborate than your usual "rip in the universe" VFX. Yet there are clearly limits to the show's VFX budget, given that most of the epic Lukiri/Greyskin battle was staged to happen very far away from the camera so they didn't have to render a lot of detail.
     
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    So what's the story, I wonder, with the creepy little psychic girl who follows the bad guy around? She obviously isn't happy with her situation, but is she a Blackblood, another member of the Royal Family, or what?
     
  16. Christopher

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    When she was first introduced, we saw that Dred used her as a lie detector. I guess he keeps her around because her psychic/divining power is useful to him, but she doesn't seem to have a say in the matter. I suspect she'll turn on him in the end.
     
  17. Christopher

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    So... your typical modern season finale, wrapping up the main seasonal threads but basically restoring the status quo and leaving things unresolved for season 2. I would've preferred something that leaned a bit more toward resolution with more limited cliffhanging, because we don't even know yet if there will be a season 2. I hope there is. This wasn't a great show, but it's entertaining enough, and it has an incredibly gorgeous lead actress. (If "lead" is even the word, since the rest of the ensemble seemed to get the bulk of the screen time here.)

    The whole romantic-quadrangle thing is playing out in a pretty cliched manner, right down to Talon contrivedly barging in on the lovers at just the wrong moment. It was kind of a mean trick to make us think they were going to subvert formula and have the super-hot heroine actually realize the stalwart, loyal nerd was the one she loved, but then they copped out with the whole "like a brother" thing, which was pretty disappointing. You know, I really disliked Janzo at first, and I do still think the actor is a bit too broad, but I've warmed considerably to both character and performer by now.
     
  18. dodge

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    I guess arrows only kill or injure characters with no speaking lines on this show, because Wythers and Mistress apparently just shrugged off the chest wounds from last week... :shrug:

    They went comically overboard with delayed executions here, first Dredd inexplicably delays killing Talon and her posse by asking her to do the thing that's the reason he wants to kill her to stop her from doing, and then when the tables have turned Budget Daenerys does the whole "after proper trial," and then after proper trial "let's wait until sunrise (or however long it takes to mount an escape)..." :p
     
  19. Christopher

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    Yeah, that was a bit puzzling. I mean, okay, it seemed that he wanted to prove to the world that she was a threat, to show that he was justified in going to such extreme lengths to kill one young woman. Or to prove that he'd gotten the right person after all and the surviving Blackblood wasn't still out there. Still, his methods raise questions. Why demand she do it in private in the warden's office and then move her outside and do it again? And it wasn't clear whether he knew what the page said. Would he have known if she'd just mispronounced it? Plus, if he's so overconfident that he and his men could kill the Lukiri if she did summon it, then why was he simultaneously so convinced her power to summon them was an existential threat?

    While we're at it, was the demon name on that page the same as the one who died last week? Was that why Talon knew it wouldn't come when she called? That seems to be the intended explanation, but it was a little vague.
     
  20. dodge

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    Yes, at first I thought that was the page the sharp-tooth assassin lady tore from the book, but she brought that to Dredd at the end of the episode after he escaped, so it seems it's the one from the Smith's notes, the only name he had.