The Orville season 3 - first look
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Can’t wait
Looking forward to it. The costumes and characters pretty much all look the same, with the new bridge I wasn't sure if we might see some new costumes, or a new look for one or more of the characters. Obviously they're all played by the same actors, but I thought we might see some new hairstyles or something along those lines.
I kinda like the look of the new Bridge. It looks a whole lot more colorful and vibrant.
Looking forward to this
They've gone for Star Trek Into Darkness minty fresh sci-fi blue filtering.
Indeed they did, seemingly!
Oh, if we're doing the golden oldies from 2017, you forgot this part:
THIS ISN'T REAL STAR TREK REAL STAR TREK IS ON FREE TV WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO GET SOME STREAMING SERVICE WHEN IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON FREE TV LIKE IT ALWAYS WAS I'M NOT WATCHING THIS RIPOFF CRAP
Problem is The Orville is now on Hulu meaning everything is behind a paywall making the only real Trek coming from fan fiction. Which by the way the perfect Trek movies is where Picard and Mercer switch places due to a transporter accident and Mercer becomes captain of the Enterprise D and Picard becomes captain of The Orville and they have work together to get back to their worlds but also have to fight against a Borg/Kaylon union to destroy both trek timelines. Eventually all the Trek crews are called in to help and even Stewie and Brian from Family Guy show up using Stewie's time machine to help.
For the sake of context: I've watched every episode of The Orville, bought some of the comics, and bought the first season soundtrack CD. But they are not the hell your whales and The Orville is not the hell real Star Trek.
Well, yes, that's my point. One of the dumber arguments the pro-Orville, anti-Discovery brigade used four years ago was that The Orville, by virtue of being on regular TV, was thereby more real Star Trek than Discovery. Which would mean The Orville was more real Star Trek than any of the Star Trek movies, because movie tickets cost money. The real reason The Orville isn't the real Star Trek is because it takes more than putting TNG and Voyager reruns in a blender on puree, changing some names, and adding dick jokes to make Star Trek.
No, the real Star Trek of the last several years is Discovery, Short Treks, Picard, Lower Decks, and Prodigy, and soon Strange New Worlds. Just as some people struggled to accept The Next Generation in 1987 (I was 24 then, and believe me, there were people who loudly declared TNG wasn't real Star Trek), so too the new shows are real Star Trek, despite all the people this time around who are stuck in the 1990s. You may have noticed that, despite the haters, The Next Generation didn't go away, it stuck around and had several spinoffs, all of which are real Star Trek. Same shit, different decade.
Well, yes, that's my point. One of the dumber arguments the pro-Orville, anti-Discovery brigade used four years ago was that The Orville, by virtue of being on regular TV, was thereby more real Star Trek than Discovery. Which would mean The Orville was more real Star Trek than any of the Star Trek movies, because movie tickets cost money. The real reason The Orville isn't the real Star Trek is because it takes more than putting TNG and Voyager reruns in a blender on puree, changing some names, and adding dick jokes to make Star Trek.
No, the real Star Trek of the last several years is Discovery, Short Treks, Picard, Lower Decks, and Prodigy, and soon Strange New Worlds. Just as some people struggled to accept The Next Generation in 1987 (I was 24 then, and believe me, there were people who loudly declared TNG wasn't real Star Trek), so too the new shows are real Star Trek, despite all the people this time around who are stuck in the 1990s. You may have noticed that, despite the haters, The Next Generation didn't go away, it stuck around and had several spinoffs, all of which are real Star Trek. Same shit, different decade.
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Amen.
This whole business of going out of your way to bash Discovery in order to prop up The Orville is precisely why I've rarely participated in The Orville threads her, no matter how much I like the show (first season was rough with some very good episodes, season two was much better). If that's the main thing some fans (and there are some who are louder about this than others, you know who you are) use to argue for The Orville, then what's the point of discussing the show? And I say that as someone who had a lot of issues with the first season and parts of the second season of Discovery.
Honestly, it's very un-Trekkie like.
Okay, stop beating the strawman.
I'm sure someone somewhere posted that sometime.. You're still focusing on it for reasons of your own, and that's a bore.
It's sure not something I or most other people on this board who criticize the Trek show for being crap go on about.
If this is the only point you have to make, it's a lame one.
Exactly. If you can't talk about The Orville without bashing another show, that's a sign. Do you actually like the show, or is it some enemy of my enemy thing? Some anti-SJW tribal identity thing? Judging by some posts I've seen elsewhere, asshole pride seems to be a big part of it for some people.
Move those goal posts.
I post a lot about The Orville without mentioning STD. I also post some about how shitty the Trek show is, all on its own.
So do other people.
You're just in here today making the negative comparison between the two all on your own, attributing it to other people, and then using that to dramatize some imaginary complaint about other fans based on a few examples that you're holding onto.
It's transparent and tiresome.Stop it.
This is what I was responding to.
If so, sorry. But for the first couple of years of Discovery and The Orville, every discussion of Discovery on other sites I was reading was overrun by Orville fans going on about it being "real Star Trek" and the new Trek shows being garbage. To be fair, there were also Axanar fans barging in and going on about how that was the "real Star Trek" and new Trek was garbage. Some sites became just unreadable.
