Or Arthur C Clarke, who Trek rips off a lot (okay, Trek has ripped off every sf idea in the show).
Or the world. You know, it's been two weeks at least since I've had paper money or change in my pocket, and I buy stuff every day.
THE ORVILLE: S1, E7: "MAJORITY RULE"
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Or Arthur C Clarke, who Trek rips off a lot (okay, Trek has ripped off every sf idea in the show).
Or the world. You know, it's been two weeks at least since I've had paper money or change in my pocket, and I buy stuff every day.
Dictionaries like the OED are not prescriptive definitions of words though, they are biographies of the language so definitions are defined by their common and commonly accepted usage. If we started referring to gas pumps as "bananas" then twenty years from now that definition would be added to the OED.
This was just a joking reference to Star Trek.
They mention having money in Star Trek on more than one occasion, then also mention they don't use money.
On Trek, I always took references to a paycheck to be just an expression leftover from a previous era. We still have a lot of those today. The proof is in the pudding. On DS9, it seemed like officers stationed in places where currency is still used get some kind of stipend to allow them to be more comfortable.
So, something I've not seen anyone mention here yet. (If it's been mentioned I missed it.)
When the Away Team is preparing in the replicator room Ed comes in to check on them and before leaving points to Alara and says, in a rather stern, captainly, tone, "Alara do something about that nose."
We get a shot of Alara saying, "Yes sir..." and then insecurely glancing down at her nose ridges.
This is kind of an odd scene to toss in here given that clearly given their costume preparations Alara was working to hide her alien features so there some "meaning" to be gleamed here. It's been shown that Ed treats Alara with a good deal of respect and equality, having no problems with her "abilities" and encouraging her to use them when they're useful. (Alara, can you open this jar of pickles?) Also, pretty much Alara's been featured since the second episode there's been some mention of her having boyfriends and break-ups due to their insecurities about her abilities/strength and in the episode with the Bio-Ship she pretty much school-girl crush-gushes over Ed's treatment of her.
So I wonder if this little moment with her glancing at her nose isn't, maybe, her taking Ed's comment a little out of context. That she's not thinking, "I forgot to cover up my nose ridges, thanks for reminding me, Ed!" but more "My nose? Should I do something about it to be more attractive to him?"
I do suspect at some point we'll get some episode dealing more with this crush-like act with Alara, that she's more dumping all of these guys less because of their insecurities about her abilities (or the way they dance) and more that none of them are measuring up to the "crush" she has on Ed.
When the Away Team is preparing in the replicator room Ed comes in to check on them and before leaving points to Alara and says, in a rather stern, captainly, tone, "Alara do something about that nose."
We get a shot of Alara saying, "Yes sir..." and then insecurely glancing down at her nose ridges.
This is kind of an odd scene to toss in here given that clearly given their costume preparations Alara was working to hide her alien features so there some "meaning" to be gleamed here. It's been shown that Ed treats Alara with a good deal of respect and equality, having no problems with her "abilities" and encouraging her to use them when they're useful. (Alara, can you open this jar of pickles?) Also, pretty much Alara's been featured since the second episode there's been some mention of her having boyfriends and break-ups due to their insecurities about her abilities/strength and in the episode with the Bio-Ship she pretty much school-girl crush-gushes over Ed's treatment of her.
So I wonder if this little moment with her glancing at her nose isn't, maybe, her taking Ed's comment a little out of context. That she's not thinking, "I forgot to cover up my nose ridges, thanks for reminding me, Ed!" but more "My nose? Should I do something about it to be more attractive to him?"
I do suspect at some point we'll get some episode dealing more with this crush-like act with Alara, that she's more dumping all of these guys less because of their insecurities about her abilities (or the way they dance) and more that none of them are measuring up to the "crush" she has on Ed.
Plus they watch old TV shows like Seinfeld. I'm sure they must have seen money in use.
It's likely Alara doesn't entirely pay attention to those shows and such enough to get what money is/is used for.
Well, we are the ones who have ruined the word "literally," which if you look at closely, refers to letters and words: it originally meant as something appears in words.
I just read it as he was making sure she didn't forget to cover it. But, as my now wife will tell you, I'm terrible at picking up signals.
I think he was talking more about Alara's reaction to it - maybe she responded as if it were a bit more personal.
I know that on FB there's some Mercer/Kitan 'shipping going on, which I find strange and somewhat repulsive (okay, I often have that reaction to 'shipping as a thing).
I know that on FB there's some Mercer/Kitan 'shipping going on, which I find strange and somewhat repulsive (okay, I often have that reaction to 'shipping as a thing).
I noticed the same thing that @Trekker4747 did more or less, but I would have said it differently. There was an extra beat in there that didn't need to be there just for Kitan to acknowledge that she didn't appear native yet.
They have been hinting at Alara's feelings for Mercer for a few episodes now, so I imagine that they will eventually address the issue, and hopefully in an insightful yet incredibly awkward way.
I enjoyed Episode 7, and I appreciated how completely out of place the away team was, and how arrogant their views were towards the prevailing culture on the planet. That's a natural reaction, I think, especially for a group of schlubs just trying to do their jobs.
I enjoyed Episode 7, and I appreciated how completely out of place the away team was, and how arrogant their views were towards the prevailing culture on the planet. That's a natural reaction, I think, especially for a group of schlubs just trying to do their jobs.
I do, of course, understand this. My half-joking posts were really about the fact that the people who say "literally" when they mean "figuratively" - not the dictionaries that report the usage - make the word almost meaningless.
The word "literal" that you use is a devolution of meaning from it's original meaning, which related to thinks coming from print. I guess what goes around, comes around.
The only reliable and definitive dictionary is the Urban Dictionary.
Look for Gordon to include a reference to that "bedrock of ancient knowledge" in some future episode.
Look for Gordon to include a reference to that "bedrock of ancient knowledge" in some future episode.
I'm not "shipping" them, I'd rather see Ed and his wife re-connect, just that Alara has this "school-girl crush" on Ed who, it seems, treats her differently than other guys have in the past since Ed isn't apparently insecure about her abilities and she seemed to take the nose comment a bit personally. But, again, I see it as nothing more than a "school-girl crush" that may result in her realizing they aren't fit for one another after and he's just a crush. (Thinking along the lines of the Q-girl in TNG and Commander Riker.)
You can do stories that copy Star Trek stories without it seeming derivative. Stargate did it all the time but it always felt like its own thing. Orville does it in a way so stylistically close to the original it never feels like its own thing.
Orville is a big Star Trek shaped member berry. Making you 'member is nice for a while but it only goes so far.
Although one thing I will say in defense of the upvote/downvote metrics, I think it follows from some of the stuff we saw that upvotes become meaningful if they outnumber the downvotes, even though it was not stated explicitly. I speculate that if you get to 10 million upvotes before you get to 10 million downvotes, the count stops there.
I wouldn't mind the Ed/Elara thing just because I want to see a guy act like a man and date a ridiculously strong woman without being threatened by it. Just once, no Riley garbage, just a man who learns to be secure in his masculinity having a girlfriend who can kick a 70 yard field goal with him as the ball.
Orville is a big Star Trek shaped member berry. Making you 'member is nice for a while but it only goes so far.
Although one thing I will say in defense of the upvote/downvote metrics, I think it follows from some of the stuff we saw that upvotes become meaningful if they outnumber the downvotes, even though it was not stated explicitly. I speculate that if you get to 10 million upvotes before you get to 10 million downvotes, the count stops there.
I wouldn't mind the Ed/Elara thing just because I want to see a guy act like a man and date a ridiculously strong woman without being threatened by it. Just once, no Riley garbage, just a man who learns to be secure in his masculinity having a girlfriend who can kick a 70 yard field goal with him as the ball.
I really disagree with this. The character dynamics make it feel like its own thing. But, everyone's mileage will vary.
