Spoilers The Orville: New Horizons Season 3 Discussion

[tomalak301]

I haven't really followed much of the interview stuff but is there a reason why this season is called "New Horizons"? I have seen that this season will have a few stand alone stories, but I guess I'm curious why they are rebranding the show and if there is any other significant meaning behind it.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I haven't really followed much of the interview stuff but is there a reason why this season is called "New Horizons"? I have seen that this season will have a few stand alone stories, but I guess I'm curious why they are rebranding the show and if there is any other significant meaning behind it.

I think just that it's a new start for the show after 3 years. Seaquest DSV/2032 changed the title a bit for their S3.

Who knows, maybe the title change was due to Fox owning the rights to the original name? And definitely anything to get away from Fox.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Doctor Who has occasionally used a title for a season, twice during the original run and then just last season.

 

[Tuskin38]

I haven't really followed much of the interview stuff but is there a reason why this season is called "New Horizons"? I have seen that this season will have a few stand alone stories, but I guess I'm curious why they are rebranding the show and if there is any other significant meaning behind it.

According to Seth, the higher ups suggested adding a subtitle to try and emphasize that it's new, a refresh.

It was mentioned in an interview he did with Jimmy Kimmel IIRC.

 

[Bornin1980something]

My biggest issue with the episode was that it felt kind of weird that all of this was coming up so long after the battle against the Kaylon. At first I thought maybe that was the finale, and so this was the immediate aftermath, but I looked and there were a bunch of episodes between them.
This was also kind of a weird way to introduce Burke, it made her really unlikeable, and if they actually want us to like her, it's gonna take a lot of work.
This was not at all what I expected for our first episode on Hulu. I expected them go with a bigger episode to really draw in any new viewer who might not have seen the show before, but I can't really see anyone who isn't familiar with the characters and the whole Kaylon and Isaac situation enjoying it that much.

Remember, they never intended to take this long over releasing it! Also, I believe trauma like that can take a while to show its full extent.

As for Charly, she is a survivor from one of first ships the Kaylon destroyed, and has only just transferred. Also, if she was to attempt murder, then better at the beginning of the season than the end! In truth, her moral ambiguity reminded me of Klyden. So while I like her story, I knew many Orville fans wouldn't!

It was certainly an odd episode to 'relaunch' the show with, though, without even a thourgh recap. I think Seth MacFarlane is a bit insular, writing the stories he wants, but not necessarily what works best for the audience.

 

[AntonyF]

According to Seth, the higher ups suggested adding a subtitle to try and emphasize that it's new, a refresh.

It was mentioned in an interview he did with Jimmy Kimmel IIRC.

That's how I perceived it. It's been a long gap between seasons and a change of home... it is a mini reset button. Or a brush off the dust cover.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Titles for all 10 episodes this season have leaked:

Spoiler: Episode titles

1. Electric Sheep
2. Shadow Realms
3. Mortality Paradox
4. Gently Falling Rain
5. A Tale Of Two Topas
6. The Word Of Avis pt.1
7. The Word Of Avis pt.2
8. Midnight Blue
9. Omitted
10. Future Unknown

 

[JD]

Remember, they never intended to take this long over releasing it! Also, I believe trauma like that can take a while to show its full extent.

I was talking more about in universe, there were 5 episode between Identity Part II and Electric Sheep, and that seems like an awfully long time for a story like this to pop up. I could maybe see 2 or 3, to give it a bit of time for this to build, but 5 seems a pretty big gap.

As for Charly, she is a survivor from one of first ships the Kaylon destroyed, and has only just transferred. Also, if she was to attempt murder, then better at the beginning of the season than the end! In truth, her moral ambiguity reminded me of Klyden. So while I like her story, I knew many Orville fans wouldn't!

One thing I will give them with Charley, is that it was kind of nice that she didn't just have instant change of heart, because that's not the kind of thing you're going to just instantly be able to move past after one conversation.

 

[Guy Gardener]

5 episodes between ID2 and the season finale to work on plot threads with.

They had plenty of time to do a far smoother wind-down of Isaac/Finn and Isaac/crew, etc. Even individual scenes interwoven between episodes and not just "Hey Claire, what's it like now that you're broken up?" "Well it took a moment but I'm fine now." ...

Especially with the godawful "Lasting Impressions" smartphone utter-filler-trash episode, which should now seem even more trashier once people realize that it's not just a poor TNG ripoff with no innovation, but given the plot threads season 2 was weaving and all that was shoved to the side for "let's take a few minutes of video recordings and make a fake personality to waste 50 minutes with".

Ugh.

Sooner or later, Gordon is going to be lost in time and have no where to go and no one to help him except Laura.

At the very least, they'll make a comic book about it.

Leighton Meester is recurring on the How I met Your Mother remake, How I met your father, but it's weird she hasn't done a cameo on the Gossip Girl remake, so it's not like she's tied down.

 

[Vince A]

I don't totally agree with what they say about...

Spoiler: morbid subject

Suicide.
They make it seem as if it were always a choice dictated only by reasoning and logic and it is a choice that falls solely on those who committed suicide. They spent episode repeating to each other "It's not your fault, it was his choice!".

Tell the victims of bullying.

Also, Dr. Finn's claim that all problems have a solution is false. There are some problems that don't have solutions.

 

[Markonian]

Titles for all 10 episodes this season have leaked:

Leaked, or been announced/published by TPTB?

 

[matthunter]

Also, Dr. Finn's claim that all problems have a solution is false. There are some problems that don't have solutions.

Mathematically or logically speaking, yes. We are rarely faced with those when it comes to interpersonal or cultural relationships, which is the area she was discussing. The issue with those, to a logical being, is that there are rarely PERFECT solutions.

 

[Romulan_spy]

Leaked, or been announced/published by TPTB?

The youtube channel "Talking The Orville" posted the episode titles in their Community feedback. It said the episode titles were "released". So I am guessing they were announced by TPTB. You can find the episode titles on IMDB, Wikipedia etc...

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The youtube channel "Talking The Orville" posted the episode titles in their Community feedback. It said the episode titles were "released". So I am guessing they were announced by TPTB. You can find the episode titles on IMDB, Wikipedia etc...

Which are hardly proof of been officially released.

Now if the source(s) behind Wikipedia's claim leads to an official press release, then fine.

Not so much if their source is that YouTube channel comment section.

 

[Velocity]

Remember, they never intended to take this long over releasing it! Also, I believe trauma like that can take a while to show its full extent.

And the anger/hate can last a long time, too. A few years ago my daughter went to visit her friend who lived with her grandparents. The grandfather, who had been stationed in the Pacific during WWII, thought my daughter looked Japanese and didn't want to let her into the house. And that was at least 40 years after the war.

 

[Mudd]

Also, Dr. Finn's claim that all problems have a solution is false. There are some problems that don't have solutions.

Imagine, a human being being impossibly optimistic.

Don't these people spend any time on the Internet?

 

[Velocity]

I had forgotten, but Gordon is probably still holding a grudge against Isaac also for the "practical joke" with his leg, so he is less likely to trust him or forgive him for much of anything.

 

[tomalak301]

I had forgotten, but Gordon is probably still holding a grudge against Isaac also for the "practical joke" with his leg, so he is less likely to trust him or forgive him for much of anything.

I don't know. He said he really liked the joke and even laughed. (I rewatched Orville before season 3)

 

[CorporalCaptain]

"Electric Sheep" was a strong opening.

 

[The Wormhole]

I had forgotten, but Gordon is probably still holding a grudge against Isaac also for the "practical joke" with his leg, so he is less likely to trust him or forgive him for much of anything.

As mentioned above, Gordon seemed to forgive Isaac for that by the end of the episode. Granted, it was brought on by the fact that in that episode it seemed as though Isaac was killed. Indeed, we certainly see many other moments between Gordon and Isaac afterwards, such as the scene later in the first season where Isaac begins stroking Gordon's arm in order to understand how humans feel when the bond with lower lifeforms like cats. And when everyone thought Isaac was leaving in Part 1 of Identity (before the Kaylon plans were revealed) Gordon sings for Isaac at the good-bye party.