The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[Skywalker]

I really want to see some more Nebulas, some Cheyennes, New Orleanses (is that the proper word? ), etc. If the usage of all of those older models were deliberate artistic choices, then fine, keep them in, but if they were used strictly because of budgetary limitations, then the remastering team shouldn't feel obligated to keep them.

 

[TheSeeker]

Well if that screenshot from Sins Of The Father really is completely CGI then I would strongly be in favour of this as well.

 

[NewHorizon]

I don't want to see any CGI in TNG:HD unless it is deemed absolutely necessary, and even then it had better fit with the rest of the effects in the
show and not look CGI like the TOS:R stuff did. The bird of prey vs enterprise showdown shot looks good, but the dropping out of warp
shot looks obviously CGI. The lighting is off and it looks like they tried to mask that it's a CGI model by adding a bloom effect.

Please Drexler and co...only when necessary.

 

[22 Stars]

I also wanted to mention that just because a shot used in TNG has an HD transfer for a TOS film, doesn't mean they have access to that footage. Trek movies and Trek TV are now split between Paramount and CBS Television.

 

[Flake]

- I always thought the BoP looked far too large relative to the Enterprise. Thoughts?

It looked way too big in Search for Spock and looks WAY WAY WAY too big against the Enterprise-D.

If it's that close it should be 1/3 that size at least.

Its an odd perspective though...

How do you know the BoP isn't parked just off the deflector dish alongside the Enterprise?

 

[RAMA]

I really want to see some more Nebulas, some Cheyennes, New Orleanses (is that the proper word? ), etc. If the usage of all of those older models were deliberate artistic choices, then fine, keep them in, but if they were used strictly because of budgetary limitations, then the remastering team shouldn't feel obligated to keep them.

This small "test" footage--and kudos for the team putting out this sampler to test both reaction and technical ability--gives me hope we will see a few minor changes such as the occasional non-kitbash.

 

[RAMA]

I wonder why CBS would CGI that dropping out of warp shot with a 6 footer clone, when there are already numerous shots of the 6 foot model dropping out of warp that would have looked better and been authentic? The lighting just looks off in that shot.

Huge improvement over the original shot.

 

[22 Stars]

I wonder why CBS would CGI that dropping out of warp shot with a 6 footer clone, when there are already numerous shots of the 6 foot model dropping out of warp that would have looked better and been authentic? The lighting just looks off in that shot.

Huge improvement over the original shot.

I agree, and let's also remember most of us haven't seen these in motion. A screencap is not going to look the same as the final moving image.

 

[AviTrek]

Call me a dinosaur, but I still don't have a blu-ray player.

Does anyone think they'll come out with a DVD version of TNG-R, like they did with TOS-R?

I doubt there will be enough of an improvement in the remastered DVD over the original DVD to justify buying it. As others have said, do yourself a favor and buy a cheap blu ray player(assuming you have an HDTV). Keep in mind, the cost of the complete set will probably be more than the cost of a blu ray player. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if the MSRP of season 1 is more than the cost of a blu ray player.

Now that I think about it even more, even if you don't own an HDTV, you should buy a blu ray player and just have it output 480p to your tv. Why buy the discs in SD to then rebuy in HD later when you can buy the HD version now?

 

[JarodRussell]

Since the spacedock scene already has an HD transfer for the movies, there is no reason they can't add the ENT-D over the original ENT like they did when TNG aired. Although that doesn't explain why they didn't/couldn't do the same for the BOP.

I'd say that since Drexler, Probert and others are aboard, that they are going to let the Enterprise dock outside the Spacedock, as originally intended.

^Makes more sense. I remember thinking at the time that the scales were all messed up. If the E refit just fit through the doors how is it that the very same spacedock could accomodate the E-D?

Lol that is the first thing I thought of in 1988 when the ep aired... the scale is so incredibly wrong.

If they do go ahead and change the docking sequence that would mean they would have to change this shot which I just loved when I first saw it.

Well they could replace it with a new shot where that docking arm goes into the main shuttle bay. But then again, that would probably not fit with the interior scenes.

 

[RAMA]

Call me a dinosaur, but I still don't have a blu-ray player.

Does anyone think they'll come out with a DVD version of TNG-R, like they did with TOS-R?

I doubt there will be enough of an improvement in the remastered DVD over the original DVD to justify buying it. As others have said, do yourself a favor and buy a cheap blu ray player(assuming you have an HDTV). Keep in mind, the cost of the complete set will probably be more than the cost of a blu ray player. In fact, it wouldn't shock me if the MSRP of season 1 is more than the cost of a blu ray player.

Now that I think about it even more, even if you don't own an HDTV, you should buy a blu ray player and just have it output 480p to your tv. Why buy the discs in SD to then rebuy in HD later when you can buy the HD version now?

Well since there are a lot of bluray players in the $70-100 range these days, that's not too big of an assumption to make.

 

[RAMA]

The fact that the grain is there and left totally untouched is excellent. It looks wonderful.

The last thing it needed was a trip through a computer program to remove the grain like the movies on blu-ray got. It makes things look like waxworks.

I'll see what it looks like on the bluray player, but generally I prefer some noise removal, the Total Recall DVD I have is a disgrace.

RAMA

 

[Dac]

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[bullethead]

They originally planned it to be a Cheyenne class anyway and I've heard some of the engineering displays had schematics for that class ship, so it's not like changing that one ship would be against the director or the screenwriter's vision.

 

[gaghyogi49]

A new interview with Mike and Denise Okuda is online at startrek.com:

http://www.startrek.com/article/blu-rays-books-and-more-with-mike-denise-okuda-part-1

it features some new screenshots, including the shot of Picard looking down at the Ressikan village, filmed at Bronson Canyon. The Ressikan village was recreated to match the original in design but you can see that the buildings are different. Absolutely no big deal, though.

 

[RAMA]

The valley and river are somewhat different too.

 

[Dac]

I Dont think a change from this: http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s7/7x12/thepegasus210.jpg

to something like this:

Isn't going to irrevocably damage the show.

I guess no one is reading this though

 

[bullethead]

I Dont think a change from this: http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s7/7x12/thepegasus210.jpg

to something like this:

Isn't going to irrevocably damage the show.

That's a very nice mock up you got there.

 

[22 Stars]

Watching TNG on BBC-A HD and it is almost laughable, Data's Day is so blurry its hard to believe it meets current broadcast acceptability.

 

[Sho]

That startrek.com interview also has our first glimpse at the revamped transporter effect!