The OFFICIAL STNG-R general discussion thread!

[RAMA]

All I'm saying is that it's pretty obvious he's lost weight. He's even discussed it at conventions.

Now, back to the subject at hand. Does anyone know how to speed up time? I can't wait watch the remastered episodeds!

I don't get the enthusiasm tbh...

They're still the same old eps.
Yeah, they look slightly better, but it's not like Picard will suddenly work out Darmok's language BEFORE his death this time or Berlinghof Rammussens ship will look like a Blue Police box or something....(now THERE's an idea )

The hint of all new FX was about all that interested me in the project.
HD is great and all, but not "paying 70 quid more for a product I've already got/is repeated on TV constantly" great...

They're going to feel really different because of the quality of the picture, but there are going to be a lot of subtle differences from scene to scene that have more video FX in them...so while it may not hit you over the head with obvious stuff like starships, you'll see more stuff like the teaser trailer...lighting in the windows at warp, color correction, and so on.

I just watched TOS's Arena in HD...it occurred to me just how different it looks when the clarity is so apparent...looking at the improved contrast, I can see detail in the Gorn...individual plants on the rock face...It looks little like the episode I watched late at night when I discovered the show in the late 70s, early 80s.

 

[TheSeeker]

^That's how I think it's going to feel to me with TNG. I remember watching Encounter at Farpoint and thinking how amzing the ship looked. When I see it in HD I have a feeling that it's going to be like that again.

 

[The Laughing Vulcan]

Forgive me for not having read the entire thread, as I'm coming a little late to the discussion. Having lived with the TNG episodes (UK PAL versions) for 20 odd years, I'm cautiously excited about a High Definition remaster.

But I only recently started watching the first series again, and it's the first time I'm watching the DVDs on an LCD, flatpanel display, with overscan turned off, which is how modern media should be displayed.

It revealed to me that not only is there work to be done with the special effects and so forth, but the whole series will have to be reframed as well. TNG was shot when overscan was still a get out clause for NTSC and PAL television, and a significant fraction of the image shot was lost to old type screen geometry, and that the filmmakers took that into account when making the show.

The episodes I'm watching now have scenes with picture information missing from the edges of the screen, with effects work not extending to the edges, with boom mikes and set construction creeping into the edges of shot.

The episodes will have to be reframed for Blu-ray, but they'll have to be careful to match the original look of the shows.

 

[RAMA]

Forgive me for not having read the entire thread, as I'm coming a little late to the discussion. Having lived with the TNG episodes (UK PAL versions) for 20 odd years, I'm cautiously excited about a High Definition remaster.

But I only recently started watching the first series again, and it's the first time I'm watching the DVDs on an LCD, flatpanel display, with overscan turned off, which is how modern media should be displayed.

It revealed to me that not only is there work to be done with the special effects and so forth, but the whole series will have to be reframed as well. TNG was shot when overscan was still a get out clause for NTSC and PAL television, and a significant fraction of the image shot was lost to old type screen geometry, and that the filmmakers took that into account when making the show.

The episodes I'm watching now have scenes with picture information missing from the edges of the screen, with effects work not extending to the edges, with boom mikes and set construction creeping into the edges of shot.

The episodes will have to be reframed for Blu-ray, but they'll have to be careful to match the original look of the shows.

I'm sure there will be some minor tweaking with the framing, even if it's 4:3...I bet well see someone post a screen capture comparison not long after.

I tried to keep away from STNG for awhile but I watched some of it on netflix, mainly to look for some hint of changes that could be made...wow, it looks REALLY fuzzy on Netflix...moreso than DS9. I can't imagine anyone not jumping on this to see what STNG should have looked like all along.

RAMA

 

[Scotty]

Okay, the effects of the trailer have started to wear off. I need something more to discuss at length. When do you guys think we'll get to see some screenshots, perhaps of enhanced visual effects or even better, some clips from the remastered episodes?

 

[bullethead]

Okay, the effects of the trailer have started to wear off. I need something more to discuss at length. When do you guys think we'll get to see some screenshots, perhaps of enhanced visual effects or even better, some clips from the remastered episodes?

Probably before the end of the month/early November, since the sampler is coming out in December.

 

[LitmusDragon]

I'm not really expecting any more previews myself, but then what do I know.

 

[BillJ]

Okay, the effects of the trailer have started to wear off. I need something more to discuss at length. When do you guys think we'll get to see some screenshots, perhaps of enhanced visual effects or even better, some clips from the remastered episodes?

Probably before the end of the month/early November, since the sampler is coming out in December.

Mid-January was the last I heard.

 

[RAMA]

Okay, the effects of the trailer have started to wear off. I need something more to discuss at length. When do you guys think we'll get to see some screenshots, perhaps of enhanced visual effects or even better, some clips from the remastered episodes?

Yeah after the heady first few days of the announcement...you realize it's going to be 3-4 months before you can actually buy the darn thing.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R discussion thread!

Yes for you Flake it will be a significant upgrade to HD on Blu-ray. I'm only guessing you are not watching your VHS tapes on a HDTV at the moment?
I'm not saying VHS is obsolete as a recorded physical medium you can transport elsewhere but I am saying there is a huge difference going from VHS to 1080p HD Blu-ray. So much so you may be taken out of the story by the details seen in the resolution like this.

Also, his head may explode and he may lose bowel control.

Can't wait for this. Hell, I'm even looking forward to the crappy episodes.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Re: The OFFICIAL STNG-R discussion thread!

I just can't get over how ugly the deflector dish on the 4ft is.

It's not just the deflector, it's the entire ship. It's less curvy, less sexy than the 6 footer. Its only saving grace is that its the only model with accurate ten forward windows.

 

[Trekker4747]

The 4-ft model is just very clunky looking with thick edges and just, oy. It reminds me of a larger Playmates toy or something.

 

[Oso Blanco]

I'll be surprised if it's that cheap, tbh

Amazon in Germany have listed it at €13.99, which is about £12. I expect that it will be identical to the UK version, but Amazon UK haven't listed it yet.

http://www.amazon.de/Star-Trek-Gene...KLG4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1317758234&sr=8-1

£12 or maybe even £13.99 would be okay.

No Chance. I remember paying £13.99 for Volume 65 (Man of the People, Relics) of TNG on VHS back in the early 90's (Funny what sticks in your brain...) from WHSmiths.

I think you'll be right with £21.99. Probably more in HMV too.

Why don't you order it from Amazon Germany then? I live in Germany, and I often order things from Amazon UK when they are cheaper or better there.

 

[RAMA]

I think we'll have a "full" trailer before the release of the set.

The only news I've heard is that the crew are looking at the mostly final 3 episodes at this point.

RAMA

 

[Trevacious]

Might they recreate the opening titles soundtrack with a full orchestra? It has always sounded thin to me, coming from years of admiring The Motion Picture version.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Agreed. I don't know if they'd go that far, but hope springs eternal I guess.

At first I thought, why don't they just use the original movie theme? But assuming there's legal issues which would keep them from doing so (i.e. negotiations with Jerry Goldsmith's estate or whoever), I think there might be editing/timing issues. Meaning: the TMP version may be a bit shorter or longer than the TNG version and so it would no longer sync up with the credits.

 

[AviTrek]

I imagine there was an issue, or TMP recording would have been used in TNG from the start. I doubt whatever issue there was 25 years ago will magically disappear today. But I'd love to hear a brand new recording assuming they have the budget for it.

 

[Captain Robert April]

The problem I see in that is that simply using the TMP version leaves that TOS into out in the cold, when the whole point of the rearrangement was to bridge the two.

I suspect we're stuck with the music we got, although it'll almost certainly be remastered, so hopefully won't sound quite so cheesy.

 

[RAMA]

Might they recreate the opening titles soundtrack with a full orchestra? It has always sounded thin to me, coming from years of admiring The Motion Picture version.

I brought this up already, I like the idea...it was a 90-100 piece orchestra vs a 40 piece for the TV show. I doubt it will be changed though.

The problem I see in that is that simply using the TMP version leaves that TOS into out in the cold, when the whole point of the rearrangement was to bridge the two.

I suspect we're stuck with the music we got, although it'll almost certainly be remastered, so hopefully won't sound quite so cheesy.

Eh..no one said it was cheesy.

RAMA

 

[Ghostface1701]

Another reason could be that they'd already hired Jerry Goldsmith to do a theme, and when they didn't like what he came up with (can't blame them, it's horrible), they got him to rework the TMP theme?