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Today at worked we received the first copy of TNG-R's sample BluRay.

While I'm still not sold on TOS-R I am somewhat intrigued by TNG-R because it looks like they're just enhancing what is already there rather than making wholesale changes. Come Season 1 being released I might pick it up.
 
Warped9 said:
Today at worked we received the first copy of TNG-R's sample BluRay.

While I'm still not sold on TOS-R I am somewhat intrigued by TNG-R because it looks like they're just enhancing what is already there rather than making wholesale changes. Come Season 1 being released I might pick it up.
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That's exactly what they're doing. Re-compositing the original effects footage with modern techniques and only replacing with CGI when they absolutely have to.
 
I haven't upgraded to Blu-Ray yet, but having recently rewatched TNG season one I have to admit that this is really hooking me in. It could be the 'killer app' that finally makes me upgrade. One of the big problems with TNG in its early seasons is that it looks awful. Far worse than even TOS. It lacks definition, the focus is always so soft. I seen it described on another forum as being "shot in murk-o-vision", and that isn't far from the truth. :lol: The couple of shots / footage I've seen online of the remastered "Encounter At Farpoint" have however really got me salivating for this. For really the first time ever, TNG's early seasons are going to look absolutely gorgeous!

As for issues regarding the first season as a whole, I still love it for the most part. As Jonathan Frakes once said, there's a real drive to it, a freshness that only comes at the beginning of a television show. There's the feeling that they're still prodding at the format to see where it will go, but with that comes the genuine feeling of them taking risks with things. Some of those risks didn't pay off, but when they did they were sublime. Episodes like "1001001" or "The Arsenal Of Freedom" can easily hold themselves up there with the best of Star Trek, in my opinion. :)
 
davejames said:
Speaking of VHS, was everyone else attempting to record out the commercials during taping, or was that just me? I remember vividly sitting on the couch with the remote control, and constantly trying to hit the pause button at JUST the right time so I would have a perfect, commercial-free copy to watch later.

Sigh, those were the days. :D
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If I was there when it was recording, you could bet I was cutting out commericals!

RAMA
 
Lance said:
I haven't upgraded to Blu-Ray yet, but having recently rewatched TNG season one I have to admit that this is really hooking me in. It could be the 'killer app' that finally makes me upgrade. One of the big problems with TNG in its early seasons is that it looks awful. Far worse than even TOS. It lacks definition, the focus is always so soft. I seen it described on another forum as being "shot in murk-o-vision", and that isn't far from the truth. :lol: The couple of shots / footage I've seen online of the remastered "Encounter At Farpoint" have however really got me salivating for this. For really the first time ever, TNG's early seasons are going to look absolutely gorgeous!

As for issues regarding the first season as a whole, I still love it for the most part. As Jonathan Frakes once said, there's a real drive to it, a freshness that only comes at the beginning of a television show. There's the feeling that they're still prodding at the format to see where it will go, but with that comes the genuine feeling of them taking risks with things. Some of those risks didn't pay off, but when they did they were sublime. Episodes like "1001001" or "The Arsenal Of Freedom" can easily hold themselves up there with the best of Star Trek, in my opinion. :)
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Obviously, its because TOS-R is HD and STNG was shot on analog, then digital videotape...When we see the great photography of season one on bluray i think we'll be amazed.
 
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Star-Trek-Generation-Season-1-Extras/16943

Whoo-hoo! Street date July 24th, and a theatrical screening! No MSRP yet.

CBS Entertainment and Paramount Home Entertainment have today re-confirmed the previous reports that July 24th will see the release of Star Trek: The Next Generation - Season 1 on high-def Blu-ray Disc format. To promote this release, studio sources say that on Monday July 23rd, the day before the street date of this set, there will be a theatrical screening event at approximatly 600 theaters, located in 49 U.S. markets. The screening will include 2 high-definition Season 1 episodes, "Where No One Has Gone Before" and "Datalore," along with behind-the-scenes extras! This screening will be promoted online, via social media, mobile, and in-theater...look for it!
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On the Blu-ray Discs themselves, you'll get "a wealth of bonus material," including the following items listed by the studio to retailers:
  • Over 95 minutes of brand-new documentaries featuring all new cast and crew interviews:
    • ENERGIZED: Taking The Next Generation To The Next Level
    • STARDATE REVISITED: The Origin Of Star Trek: The Next Generation
  • Never-before-released on DVD archival launch footage
  • Original episodic promos
  • Featurettes from DVD release (Mission Logs and more)
  • 7.1 DTS HD-master audio and original Stereo Surround audio!
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Oh man, Datalore, I never get tired of that episode. Although, I guess I've never gotten tired of any TNG episode. Ever.
 
Maxwell Everett said:
(NOTE: 2 seconds of the original film elements for the episode "We'll Always Have Paris" have not been located and thus have been upconverted from Standard Definition videotape)
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So, only 2 seconds out of the entire season one (which is 19 hours, 43 minutes long). That's pretty good. Course, I wish it was zero!
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Blink and you'd miss it. I gave up being a perfectionist long ago.

Play is now listing season 1 at £50.99 on preorder - cheaper than Amazon.
 
So what happens if they find the missing footage while they're working on season 6 or 7? Two seconds is no big deal, but y'can be sure we're gonna get more missing footage as we go on.

If these are for posterity, they should re-release later if the footage is found. Yeah, I know...I'm a dreamer. :)
 
I doubt they'll re-release them. These will be the new masters, flaws and all, forever more (or until they need a new 4k print).

Two seconds, though. Wow, I doubt anyone will even notice. I wonder what it is. Does somebody with more time than sense want to scan through the episode on DVD and look for shots that last two seconds? There can't be that many! :p
 
I can live with two seconds if and when I ever buy the set, but I suppose if they ever find the lost footage, they could always issue a replacement disc or sell the disc on it's own at minimal cost as they did with the teaser.
 
Start Wreck said:
Two seconds, though. Wow, I doubt anyone will even notice. I wonder what it is. Does somebody with more time than sense want to scan through the episode on DVD and look for shots that last two seconds? There can't be that many! :p
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Two seconds is pretty quick for an average shot in TNG. I would say look for an action scene in the episode... I guess that would be when Data is dodging and firing back at the laser security system in Manheim's lab.

Of course it could also be a quick insert during a talking scene too.

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This shot here is just over 2 seconds:

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Could be anything, really!
 
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Start Wreck said:
I doubt they'll re-release them. These will be the new masters, flaws and all, forever more (or until they need a new 4k print).

Two seconds, though. Wow, I doubt anyone will even notice. I wonder what it is. Does somebody with more time than sense want to scan through the episode on DVD and look for shots that last two seconds? There can't be that many! :p
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I would guess the 2 seconds will be updated when the syndication/streaming rights are sold. But you're right, I doubt they will release a new Blu Ray set. The only chance of a correction is if they release a complete series set.
 
Maxwell Everett said:
(NOTE: 2 seconds of the original film elements for the episode "We'll Always Have Paris" have not been located and thus have been upconverted from Standard Definition videotape)
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So, only 2 seconds out of the entire season one (which is 19 hours, 43 minutes long). That's pretty good. Course, I wish it was zero!
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:( Still, you want these to be archival-quality. Not a deal-breaker (still eagerly awaiting the preorder, where is it??), but not happy news.
 
groundhog said:
:( Still, you want these to be archival-quality. Not a deal-breaker (still eagerly awaiting the preorder, where is it??), but not happy news.
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Oh get a grip on yourself! This is less than 0.003%. That is such a minute imperfection I'm sure no one would have ever noticed if they hadn't publicised it themselves. Which to me means one of two things. Either they are bragging over this amazing feat or CBS is the most honest enterprise in the history of media (which I doubt).
 
^I'm positive someone would have noticed the 2 seconds of upconverted material. This is trekkies we're talking about after all!
 
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