Other 'quick ID' methods you can also use are: the secondary shuttlebays (light bleed = model) the saucer impulse engines (lit = CG) or the windows near the back of the neck. (The model has them right up to and across the corner, on the CG one the windows stop well before. See below.)
Those windows are there on the CG-model. The camera angle is slightly different but you can still see them.
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It isn't?
Any ideas if they'll be using the same end credit or if they'll amend them with the CBS-D team?
It doesn't. I think Okuda is referring to digital matte paintings to replace planetscapes and backgrounds and such. Not ships.
I think you're overestimating how long ago this project was started. I can't imagine CBS intentionally held the Blu Ray release for January rather than releasing in time for the Christmas shopping season. The only reason I can think of for the January release is that the 3 episodes were not complete in time for Christmas.
Sorry, I may be missing something, that's a blog post from 2009. How is that relevant to a discussion of TNG-R that is being worked on in 2011/2012?
I don't think we've seen any official confirmation either way on if TNG-R is using Richter's model. The Okudas, themost official source we have, claim the CGI model has not been used yet.
Soooo...it's a matte of the CG model? The benefits of which are..??
And we won't ever. The folks at CBS don't want to look like they're doing half the work, and CBS don't want it known they're outsourcing work to fans. Hell, its probably more likely the people gathering the work from fans who don't want it known by the higher ups.
With Tobias for instance, that may open up all sorts of legal issues with him being from Germany and not being compensated for his work. Of course, any of us digital folks would give an arm and a leg for any of our creations to be in Star Trek, so I'm sure he has no interest in suing anyone (plus he worked on an officially licensed game production anyway, so theoretically its owned by the studio already). Still though, there is a possibility for shit to be flung, and everyone wants to avoid any flying feces.
Where is he saying that?
If CBS is using his model, I'm sure the lawyers have already worked out all the details. Publicly denying something does not eliminate your liability, if anything it would open you up to more issues. CBS may not want to admit they're using a fan model for PR purposes, but if the model is there I'm sure there are no legal concerns.
It's possible that Mike is mistaken, of course, if this isn't a shot he personally worked on. Not likely, but anything is possible.
It's relevant because we were talking about that particular Spacedock-mesh.
Richter isn't just a fan, he's doing CG-work for a living.
He's not. But I thought it was established earlier in the thread that this is the CG model (as evidenced by the poor shadow render along the hull, bussard color, window placement, etc). Maybe I'm misunderstanding the term 'matte' in this example, but he says it's not CG, yet the evidence suggests it is.
Using Richter's model for TNG-R would be no different than using Koerner's model for TatV (other than Richter's is better :P ). They're both digital artists who happen to be Trek fans and got to work on the show.
At this point we don't know anything other than what we've been told (the CG model has not been used yet). Anything other than that is pure speculation.
Yes it would. Gabe was working at Eden FX at the time who had the gig to work on Enterprise. To my knowledge, while Tobias is a pro who's been doing it for many years, he has no official relationship with TNG-R. Unless of course its just kept quiet.
I would also like to point out this isn't unprecedented. I know for a fact this happened on Enterprise with certain folks who weren't part of Eden FX. It wouldn't be anything weird or illegal or anything like that, I'm just saying its not yelled from the rooftops by everyone.
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