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The New Mutants -- news, rumors, opix, etc;

JD said:
AV Club interviewed a couple of epidemiologists about why it's a very bad idea to go to a movie theater. This article has pretty much killed any intention I have of going to see New Mutants.
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There's a number of posts in the comments section along the lines of "I went to the cinema several times a week and miss it massively, but I will do the right thing and stay away, and not be a BIG FUCKING BABY about it, complaining and ignoring advice."

I completely agree. This needs to become a standard response across the nations to those whining, disobeying and putting us all at risk. BIG FUCKING BABY.
 
JD said:
Is that what those marks on the side of her face are? I read a comic with her a while back and I was wondering what those were.
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The marks on Rachel's face? I think those were to show she was a Tracker, a mutant who had been enslaved and forced to use her powers to hunt other mutants down. She hid them with her powers but every once in a while they'd fail and we'd see her marks.
 
A whole 10 professional reviews, 8 of which are bad. A sad end for what was supposed to be a reasonably big release.
 
StCoop said:
A whole 10 professional reviews, 8 of which are bad. A sad end for what was supposed to be a reasonably big release.
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Was it? Supposed to be big, that is? I think the only reason it got so much hype was because of the ongoing delays and rumors. It always seemed to be something of an afterthought, a lingering loose end.
 
Yeah, I always saw it as a small side movie for the X-Men movies, and the only reason it became as noteworthy as it is because of the delays, and now because it's one of the first studio movies to open since the pandemic started.
It's a shame that it's apparently not that good. I was hoping after waiting all this time, it would at least be good.
 
M'rk son of Mogh said:
Artist Bob McLeod put some of his thoughts up on Facebook, and he is NOT happy. Not sure if he saw the movie or is just going off of the concept and characters/cast.
But them spelling his name wrong on the credits of the movie doesn't exactly help.
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He has a point about whitewashing Bobby/Sunspot, but otherwise it seems petty to complain that the characters didn't have the same height or the same hairstyle as the ones he drew. I mean, that didn't stop Hugh Jackman from being a successful Wolverine.
 
A lot of reviews say this movie is basically a TV pilot for a show that never got picked up. If the movie was supposed to start a franchise, clearly it was expected to be big...
 
I wasn't going to be seeing it in the cinema regardless but a combination of the reviews and Boone's bullshit excuses for whitewashing Sunspot have put me off ever wanting to see it.
 
I saw it and it's pretty much what it says on the tin as the Brits say. It's pretty much what you'd expect from the trailers, elevated by a few atmospheric moments, but it's pretty much boilerplate. I don't think it's bad per se, but we've seen a lot of movies and TV around here and you've seen it before. About 20 mins in and you know how the rest is going to play out. I think it'd be decently received if they had dropped it as a treat onto Disney+.

Now granted I saw it at a pop-up drive-in so it wasn't the most cinematic experience so it had its work cut out for it. The experience itself was fun and the family time was worth it so I don't have any regrets.

The X-Men are name dropped at one point so this is probably not MCU proper.

Lockheed! I was surprised to see little dragon Lockheed make a nice appearance.
 
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Christopher said:
He has a point about whitewashing Bobby/Sunspot, but otherwise it seems petty to complain that the characters didn't have the same height or the same hairstyle as the ones he drew. I mean, that didn't stop Hugh Jackman from being a successful Wolverine.
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Hugh Jackman had the unexpected advantage of looking like a sixty year old Clint Eastwood while in his twenties. That said, there's basically no way any character is going to be cast with just the perfect choice in height, size, facial structure, etc. Casting like Christopher Reeve, for instance, is once in a millenium, because there's no way a mere lifetime is enough to even the odds.
 
White-washing the character doesn't do any favors for the movie because the way the characters are presented it would've been useful in my mind if for no other reason than to help distinguish the character from the others. I realize there are more noble reasons to consider diverse casting but that's a takeaway I had watching as Cannonball and Sunspot are less fleshed out than the female characters.

I guess charitably it might be seen as problematic (did anyone use that word before these kind of discussions?) having the "Latin Lover" character get all hot under the collar when overstimulated. Also, there's a plot point involving Magik teasing him that could be seen negatively if you wanted to look at it that way had the character been cast differently.
 
FormerLurker said:
That said, there's basically no way any character is going to be cast with just the perfect choice in height, size, facial structure, etc. Casting like Christopher Reeve, for instance, is once in a millenium, because there's no way a mere lifetime is enough to even the odds.
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Honestly, I think Henry Cavill looks more like the definitive Curt Swan Superman of the '60s-'70s than Reeve did. These things can be subjective. (Apparently Swan drew on Johnny Weissmuller and George Reeves as influences, though I see a resemblance to Paul Newman as well.) If anything, it was the other way around -- Christopher Reeve was so definitive that later comics artists emulated him.
 
Gary Frank pretty much just drew Christopher Reeve for Superman: Secret Origin.
 
Christopher said:
Honestly, I think Henry Cavill looks more like the definitive Curt Swan Superman of the '60s-'70s than Reeve did. These things can be subjective. (Apparently Swan drew on Johnny Weissmuller and George Reeves as influences, though I see a resemblance to Paul Newman as well.) If anything, it was the other way around -- Christopher Reeve was so definitive that later comics artists emulated him.
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Oh, I agree with most of what you said here (Cavill would be better for me with a more traditional costume). I have or had an Action Comics issue with a Swan illustration of Superman that looks like he traced a picture of George Reeves, who at that point was still so influential it didn't surprise me to see it (I don't think it was intentional, though). But again, as you said, Christopher Reeve was himself so influential that he informed artists' illustrations of Superman for the last forty years. As JD says above, Gary Frank (among others) just drew Christopher Reeve when illustrating Superman.

I wonder how many artists have gotten in trouble for copyright violations for not getting permission to use Reeve's likeness before using it?
 
Christopher said:
He has a point about whitewashing Bobby/Sunspot, but otherwise it seems petty to complain that the characters didn't have the same height or the same hairstyle as the ones he drew. I mean, that didn't stop Hugh Jackman from being a successful Wolverine.
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^^^
IDK - You seem to have glossed over another good point he made RE: The production's attention to a non-minor detail:
https://www.facebook.com/mcleod.bob/posts/10221448415734114
And now, the movie has come out at last, and apparently they've credited someone named Bob Macleod as co-creator. They couldn't even be bothered to check the spelling of my name sometime in the last three years. And that can't be fixed. That will be on the movie forever.
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^I didn't "gloss over" it, because I was not making any attempt or pretense at being comprehensive. It's simply a separate issue from the specific point I was making.
 
"And that can't be fixed. That will be on the movie forever."

Of course it can be fixed. Movies often get tweaked before home release. Will it get fixed? Who knows. Probably not. But it could be. :)
 
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