The Titan-A is ugly too. They should Sonic the Hedgehog that thing.
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I don’t think it’s ugly. I just think it’s anachronistic.
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I think it's beautiful because it is anachronistic. I'll take it over the weirdness of most 24th century designs.
TNG usually left me disappointed.
That... might just happen. Worf Effect the U.S.S. Enterprise to make the big bad seem REAL bad.
Given the talk of multiple Enterprise’s appearing, I wonder if they’d blow up the Enterprise-E at the beginning and end the series with the F. Probably not given they’ve already shown the F, but it’s a possibility.
or Blow up the F and unveil the G at the end of the series
Or just retire the name.
They average four Enterprises per century. I assume they don't like having the Enterprise be an old, outdated design.
Starfleet had to reward Kirk with the Enterprise-A to make it look like good PR, since he just saved Earth, but they couldn't get rid of that ship fast enough after they let Kirk have his one last victory lap tour of duty. They wanted the Enterprise to be an Excelsior Class.
Same thing here. They want a top-of-the-line Odyssey Class Enterprise-F. Not some "old" Sovereign Class Enterprise-E. Good riddance. I have no problem saying that while I loved the E-E back in 1996, I've liked it less as time has gone on. So I welcome the Enterprise-F.
If someone needs a TNG reference, in the future of "All Good Things" Riker said, "They tried to decommission [the Enterprise-D] five years ago." So there was no way the Enterprise-D was likely making it to 30 years, destroyed or not. Same with the Enterprise-E. Season 3 is in 2402, right? That would make it 30.
For the original Enterprise? The refit helped it last as long as it did.
For the Enterprise-B? The Excelsior Class is like the Windows XP of starships. It was (and is) the class that wouldn't die. So that probably helped keeping it around longer too.
Starfleet had to reward Kirk with the Enterprise-A to make it look like good PR, since he just saved Earth, but they couldn't get rid of that ship fast enough after they let Kirk have his one last victory lap tour of duty. They wanted the Enterprise to be an Excelsior Class.
Same thing here. They want a top-of-the-line Odyssey Class Enterprise-F. Not some "old" Sovereign Class Enterprise-E. Good riddance. I have no problem saying that while I loved the E-E back in 1996, I've liked it less as time has gone on. So I welcome the Enterprise-F.
If someone needs a TNG reference, in the future of "All Good Things" Riker said, "They tried to decommission [the Enterprise-D] five years ago." So there was no way the Enterprise-D was likely making it to 30 years, destroyed or not. Same with the Enterprise-E. Season 3 is in 2402, right? That would make it 30.
For the original Enterprise? The refit helped it last as long as it did.
For the Enterprise-B? The Excelsior Class is like the Windows XP of starships. It was (and is) the class that wouldn't die. So that probably helped keeping it around longer too.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said. I too think the Enterprise commissioning/decommissioning factor is more political than practical. However, if that is indeed the case, then I would also like to think that the previous decommissioned Enterprises that weren't destroyed (including the A, B, and E) were recommissioned with a different name and registry, since there's nothing inherently wrong with the ships, and I wouldn't want to go under the assumption that they were all lost or destroyed during their active service (I always had a theory that the USS Lakota seen in DS9 was actually the former Enterprise-B.) Unless they were all immediately put into a museum, which is also a possibility.
The one oddball here is the Enterprise-C. At some point the B either gets decommissioned or destroyed, and the C is built as its replacement. However, the Ambassador class didn't seem to be all that popular, and when the C was destroyed in 2344, Starfleet didn't replace it with a new one for 20 years. So that one I can't explain.
I can’t say that i ever liked the Star Trek Online ship designs. Cheaping out by re-using the Odyssey design might hint towards limited screen time for the E-F without big chances to ever make it to the big screen. On the other side:
Original 1701 was about 300m long which gave us 3 seasons of TOS
1701-D was 630m long which resulted in 7 TNG seasons.
If the new Enterprise is more than 1 kilometer long, we could look at 10 seasons for the upcoming post TNG era series. Hooray!
Original 1701 was about 300m long which gave us 3 seasons of TOS
1701-D was 630m long which resulted in 7 TNG seasons.
If the new Enterprise is more than 1 kilometer long, we could look at 10 seasons for the upcoming post TNG era series. Hooray!
*442 meters* teehee
Sometime around 2005, someone on here (I can't remember who) posted a theory that there was no Enterprise for 20 years because the Enterprise-C was the only Enterprise to be lost with all hands. The gap was out of respect for the lost crew.
By the time TNG started, it would've been a new ship and crew regardless; but to have a new Enterprise any sooner would've been considered in poor taste.
My thinking is we don’t necessarily know that there isn’t something wrong with the ships. Just because the Sovereign class remains in service doesn’t mean the Enterprise E has to for example. Each unit goes through different experiences after launch, maybe those experiences damage the ship somehow? Not enough to immediately retire but enough to shorten the service life or make individual units ineligible for refit. The E certainly took a lot of damage in the movies plus unknown Dominion War damage.
I like the respect theory, but also between CVN-65 being deactivated in 2012 and CVN-80 being run in 2028 there's no Enterprise in the US Navy, so it's not like that doesn't happen in real life. I also think they might have known at the time that the Galaxy-class Project was coming along and thought maybe that was a better way to honour the ship.
I always liked comparing the Trek ships to aircraft carriers longevity so I always imagined the starships getting a lifespan of fifty years, unless they ran into some plot of course. I got a kick out of the E-D surviving to 2378 in a Myriad Universes story. In the past I'd imagined the Enterprise-E still running in 2408 under Worf's command. I think it might have been nice if fans of the ship got to see it again but also there's something about not having to try and rebuild the same sets and getting chewed out for changing stuff. This way there's more freedom for the creatives to just build.
I always liked comparing the Trek ships to aircraft carriers longevity so I always imagined the starships getting a lifespan of fifty years, unless they ran into some plot of course. I got a kick out of the E-D surviving to 2378 in a Myriad Universes story. In the past I'd imagined the Enterprise-E still running in 2408 under Worf's command. I think it might have been nice if fans of the ship got to see it again but also there's something about not having to try and rebuild the same sets and getting chewed out for changing stuff. This way there's more freedom for the creatives to just build.
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For the E, its been almost 30 years. That means.. REFITS!
5 year minor refits ( End of 5 year missions)
10 years medium refits ( Change out parts, new stuff like the Nemesis Enterprise, Tos versions)
20 year Major refits ( Enterprise Refit, major change outs, like a year in dock.)
So, using the Stargazer interior wouldn't be a problem for the Enterprise E, just re arrange stuff around.
5 year minor refits ( End of 5 year missions)
10 years medium refits ( Change out parts, new stuff like the Nemesis Enterprise, Tos versions)
20 year Major refits ( Enterprise Refit, major change outs, like a year in dock.)
So, using the Stargazer interior wouldn't be a problem for the Enterprise E, just re arrange stuff around.
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