The New Klingons

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The only reason Klingon blood was pink in ST:VI was to fool the censors.

 

[Nerys Myk]

As long as it doesn't violate dialog, story, or create a major inconsistency in the setting yes.

That eliminates a lot of Star Trek.

No, dialog tells us that you can visually tell the difference.

The movie goes to great lengths to establish the color of Klingon blood and set up the Scooby-Doo moment. It's all about the color.

Ah I see, you're Red color blind.

Nope.

 

[Sci]

By the way, Klingons being naturally bald would violate Canon in a pretty big way.

TNG: The Rightful Heir

KAHLESS: I went into the mountains, all the way to the volcano at Kri'stak. There I cut off a lock of my hair and thrust it into the river of molten rock which poured from the summit. The hair began to burn. Then I plunged it into the lake of Lusor and twisted it into this sword. And after I used it to kill the tyrant Molor I gave it a name. Bat'leth. The sword of honour.
KOROTH: You know. The story of the sword is known only to the High Clerics. It was never written down, so that if he returned, we could be sure it was Kahless.

Contradicting one line from one episode that aired when Bill Clinton hadn't been in office six months and Microsoft was still hawking Windows 3.1 is not violating canon in a "pretty big way." It would be a minor discontinuity that the overwhelming majority of the audience would not care about.

Besides, who is to say that the Klingons in DSC are naturally bald? They could be bald because of cultural practices.

Or they could be naturally bad as a side effect of a variant of the Augment virus! Or maybe there's a Klingon ethnicity that has mostly been naturally bald and has resisted assimilating with hairier Klingon ethnicities. Or a thousand other possibilities if such a minor thing really bothers you all that much.

The only reason Klingon blood was pink in ST:VI was to fool the censors.

Well, not fool. Everyone knew why the blood was pink. But yeah, if Klingon blood had been red, then Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country would have received an R rating from the Motion Picture Association of America. Having it pink kept it PG-13.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

And we've also seen enough Klingons that you can consider in-between ridged and unridged during the movies, such as Chang. Chang is probably the best example of it.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

"This is not Klingon Pepto-Bismol!"

 

[fireproof78]

Contradicting one line from one episode that aired when Bill Clinton hadn't been in office six months and Microsoft was still hawking Windows 3.1 is not violating canon in a "pretty big way." It would be a minor discontinuity that the overwhelming majority of the audience would not care about.

Besides, who is to say that the Klingons in DSC are naturally bald? They could be bald because of cultural practices.

Or they could be naturally bad as a side effect of a variant of the Augment virus! Or maybe there's a Klingon ethnicity that has mostly been naturally bald and has resisted assimilating with hairier Klingon ethnicities. Or a thousand other possibilities if such a minor thing really bothers you all that much.



Well, not fool. Everyone knew why the blood was pink. But yeah, if Klingon blood had been red, then Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country would have received an R rating from the Motion Picture Association of America. Having it pink kept it PG-13.

You make great points. But, the pink blood, in addition to the ratings, also allowed for the Colonel West reveal.

Chang is the best .

Fixed it for you

 

[Sci]

You make great points. But, the pink blood, in addition to the ratings, also allowed for the Colonel West reveal.

True! Although, the Colonel West reveal was not part of the film as released in cinemas -- it was added to home video releases later on.

Which, of course, begs the question... Is it canon!?!?!?!?!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Which, of course, begs the question... Is it canon!?!?!?!?!

Scanners meme in 5...4...3...

 

[Jesse1066]

True! Although, the Colonel West reveal was not part of the film as released in cinemas -- it was added to home video releases later on.

Which, of course, begs the question... Is it canon!?!?!?!?!

The Blu Ray release is the theatrical version only. I don't know how the canon policy applies in this case. The Blu Ray is technically the latest version of the film, but not the most complete version.

 

[Gojira]

The Blu Ray release is the theatrical version only. I don't know how the canon policy applies in this case. The Blu Ray is technically the latest version of the film, but not the most complete version.

I don't have the blue-ray....how are they different in the Colonel West reveal?

 

[Sci]

The Blu Ray release is the theatrical version only. I don't know how the canon policy applies in this case. The Blu Ray is technically the latest version of the film, but not the most complete version.

Schrödinger's Klingons -- their blood is both red and pink until we cut them open to find out!

 

[Sci]

I don't have the blue-ray....how are they different in the Colonel West reveal?

The reveal that the would-be sniper at the Khitomer Conference was Colonel West in disguise was simply never included in the theatrical cut. The scene had been shot but not edited into the film as released to cinemas. It was added to the film for home video release.

 

[Prax]

There's other dialog about Klingonese hair

 

[Nerys Myk]

There's other dialog about Klingonese hair

My hair like Kahless wore it, hallelujah I adore it....

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Maybe Kahless was a mutant or half-breed. Really the hair thing is minor as all hell.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Maybe Kahless was a mutant or half-breed. Really the hair thing is minor as all hell.

Most of the stuff fans fret about is.

 

[Gojira]

The reveal that the would-be sniper at the Khitomer Conference was Colonel West in disguise was simply never included in the theatrical cut. The scene had been shot but not edited into the film as released to cinemas. It was added to the film for home video release.

Thanks. I may have to get the blu-ray too see the difference.

 

[Mudd]

By the way, Klingons being naturally bald would violate Canon in a pretty big way.

TNG: The Rightful Heir

KAHLESS: I went into the mountains, all the way to the volcano at Kri'stak. There I cut off a lock of my hair and thrust it into the river of molten rock which poured from the summit. The hair began to burn. Then I plunged it into the lake of Lusor and twisted it into this sword. And after I used it to kill the tyrant Molor I gave it a name. Bat'leth. The sword of honour.
KOROTH: You know. The story of the sword is known only to the High Clerics. It was never written down, so that if he returned, we could be sure it was Kahless.

That's not "a big way;" it's very nearly the definition of "trivial."

 

[UssGlenn]

If I remember correctly, the assassin is shown to have red blood, but since the reveal is cut, they don't call attention to it.

 

[fireproof78]

Most of the stuff fans fret about is.

Indeed.