Hatch chiles?
The mystery of Jose's peppers...
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With my luck they are Carolina reapers or ghost chilies…..
Someone ate them and then pooped them. And, as explained by Trip, poop is then broken down into its component molecules and reconstituted into useful items around the ship such as cargo containers, insulation, or boots. Next time you see someone put their boots on, you will think about it very differently.
I take it at face value that Kirk did, in fact, have peppers for Dominguez, and I don't see how that's offensive in any way.
Right?
My wife's family is 2nd and 3rd generation Italian, and at no time has suggesting they might like Italian food been offensive to them. OMG, Aunt Rosie's lasagna at Easter dinner was to die for! I only had two helpings the first time and she smacked me on the arm and yelled at me for not eating enough. Mangia!
I gather it's the fact that they had the choice to make a character like or not like something, and they went for the obvious based on his name.
You and I like what we like - that's our choice. What a character likes and doesn't is a third party writer's choice.
You could look at it positively in that even by the 23rd century, food traditions continue to be passed down generation to generation. Dominguez may also like any number of Human and alien foods (unsaid), but he still enjoys chilies just as his ancestors may have. So the old co-exists with the new.
You and I like what we like - that's our choice. What a character likes and doesn't is a third party writer's choice.
You could look at it positively in that even by the 23rd century, food traditions continue to be passed down generation to generation. Dominguez may also like any number of Human and alien foods (unsaid), but he still enjoys chilies just as his ancestors may have. So the old co-exists with the new.
I was thinking the same about my wife. My wife is Italian. She likes Italian food. Dominguez is Hispanic. He likes Hispanic food. So what?
But I don't see how it's offensive to say that someone of a certain ethnic group likes the food of that ethnic group. Well, duh, I would think that they would unless we're told otherwise.
Ethnic person likes ethnic food? Racist.
Non-ethnic person likes ethnic food? Cultural appropriation.
Sometimes a pepper is just a pepper.
Now, excuse me while I go have BBQ chicken and fries.
Non-ethnic person likes ethnic food? Cultural appropriation.
Sometimes a pepper is just a pepper.
Now, excuse me while I go have BBQ chicken and fries.
I lived in Arizona—a state which is heavily Hispanic—for 15 years and had friends and neighbors there who liked all kinds of food, not just the stuff they may have grown up with. A Hispanic co-worker of mine was a connoisseur of South Asian cuisine, for instance.
They tried to make Sulu use a katana in The Naked Time, but George Takei encouraged them to look past Asian stereotypes and so he wielded a foil in that episode instead.
Just imagine if they had a WASP character express a fondness for mayo on white bread!
Ethnicities are not monolithic and writers who don't recognize that are just being lazy.
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I have a friend who is 1/2 Latina and loves making beans and rice and Mexican Wedding Cookies. Should she not?
Of course people can like any kind of food. But having said that, surely there's nothing wrong with showing someone enjoying the food of their culture.
Turkey, lettuce and tomato with mayo on white bread is one of my favorite lunch sandwiches.
We're having mashed potatoes and pot roast for dinner tonight.
You'll never find a WASP who's offended at being stereotyped.
My wife is Vietnamese and above all else loves to eat Vietnamese food.
Nothing to see as far as offence goes in Jose's peppers.
One problem our marriage has had to overcome is that my Italian wife grew up loving and making Italian food, but my WASPish digestive system (that grew up on my Mom's Scottish cooking) has trouble handling it. As I got older, I had to stop eating pasta & sauce altogether. So we have dinners that I can handle, and do our own things for lunch - like, I'll make a sammich or grilled cheese, and she'll have lasagne or eggplant parm.
You have heard of Alfredo sauce, right?
(Says the nerd who orders a chicken-onion-garlic-basil-Alfredo pizza. Or chicken parm Alfredo [at Seattle's famous 13 Coins restaurant, they call it "The Believer]. Or orders a plate of fajitas "hold the peppers," or specifies "mild" when ordering chicken Korma, or "no hot stuff at all" when handing a bowl of "Mongolian barbecue" [which is neither Mongolian nor barbecue] to the grillmaster.)
And what peppers? I don't recall the subject ever coming up in any episode of TOS.
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Oh. It was one of the numerous plot-irrelevant lines in "The Man Trap." That would explain it; I've probably seen "The Man Trap" only a few more times than I've seen the "eye-scream" scenes in "Stardust City Rag" or "The Red Angel."
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I guess I'm not as WASPish as I thought, Italian with red sauce is a food group for me at 51. I'm from small town Indiana.
I was engaged to a Filipino who was allergic to red sauce. Yeah, as @hbquikcomjamesl suggested, white sauce is a great alternative.
Or a garlic butter sauce.
This WASP loves Italian. So does my mostly Norwegian wife.
But, I'm having chicken sandwich tonight.
But, I'm having chicken sandwich tonight.
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