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The music on Star Trek Discovery

starmike said:
I can't name one "theme" from TNG. Snippets, sure, but you're never going to have anything as iconic as the music from TOS.
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"Name" or hum? I can't necessarily name every theme I know from TNG, but I can hum them. Off the top of my head, themes I can hum:

  • The Borg theme from "The Best of Both Worlds"
  • Picard's theme, taken from McCarthy's rejected theme music; I think that died out about season three though.
  • Two themes from "Who Watches the Watchers".
  • The theme from "Bobby Trap".
  • Jones' Romulan theme.
  • The flute theme from "The Inner Light", played in another episode and expanded with an orchestra on CD that was not used in any episode.
  • Yar's funeral theme.


What I did hate, however, is when you had a cue that had orchestral and was nice or even grand, then it transitioned into synth, which is aggrieves to me.
 
starmike said:
The D-50 came out in 1987. I really don't know WHAT Jones knows or doesn't know, but I don't know if he had the time to really look at it, or did someone say "quick, use the D-50....it'll be cool!...we only have two weeks!". I *DO* know that Jarre built and entire album around the D-50 (Revolutions) and it sounds 1000x better than what came out in TNG. Reason is that Jarre took the time to program the thing and not use a lot of presets.

Also, I've had 30 years with the D-50. Jones did not.
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This makes a certain amount of sense ... that Jones might not have had time to become fully acquainted with the intricacies of the instrument and might have found the default settings interesting enough as a new sound to use them in his compositions. But I did a quick sampling of Jarre's work and what I hear is pretty much the same -- the electronic portion of his work sounds very '80s, but he took the time to work in more complexity and character by combining it with non-electronic sources. This gives it a more vibrant character, not (as far as I've heard so far), better use of the instrument.

Can you give an example of Jarre's work you would say is a good use of the D-50? Or any other artist, for that matter.
 
This guy (whoever he is) has an interesting take on the subject:

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Psion said:
This makes a certain amount of sense ... that Jones might not have had time to become fully acquainted with the intricacies of the instrument and might have found the default settings interesting enough as a new sound to use them in his compositions. But I did a quick sampling of Jarre's work and what I hear is pretty much the same -- the electronic portion of his work sounds very '80s, but he took the time to work in more complexity and character by combining it with non-electronic sources. This gives it a more vibrant character, not (as far as I've heard so far), better use of the instrument.

Can you give an example of Jarre's work you would say is a good use of the D-50? Or any other artist, for that matter.
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Jarre doesn't work like that. Every album he does has a different tone to it. He only did one album that profiled the D-50 and that's Revolutions. Here's a massive list of all the gear he's used: https://jmjarrefan.wordpress.com/instruments/

The D-50 was used in MJ's "Bad", Depeche Mode's "Enjoy the Silence", JJ's "Rhythm Nation", I believe, Enya's "Watermark" album, George Michael's "Faith", the theme to "The Simpsons", I think Gary Numan used one, and New Order, to name a few.
 
starmike said:
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The D-50 was used in MJ's "Bad", Depeche Mode's "Enjoy the Silence", JJ's "Rhythm Nation", I believe, Enya's "Watermark" album, George Michael's "Faith", the theme to "The Simpsons", I think Gary Numan used one, and New Order, to name a few.
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Enya used a Juno-60 for Watermark ... it was a favorite instrument of hers for several years.

But getting back to Ron Jones and the D-50, I just don't hear anything in Jarre's examples that sound tonally superior to Jones -- other than the richer accompaniment of instruments. The sounds I hear all retain that 'tinny synth' quality that makes them distinctively from the '80s. Jones' work might rely a little heavily on the synthesizer, but I don't see (or hear!) any reason to fault him for the instrument's sound.
 
starmike said:
She used a Juno 60 and a D-50. The D-50 is all over that album.

http://bobbyblues.recup.ch/roland_d-50/d-50_examples.html

"They use a variety of keyboards but the mainstays are a Yamaha KX88master Yamaha DX7 Emulator 111 Oberheim Matrix synths and Akai S900 but particularly Roland's D50 and Juno 60."

http://www.enyabookofdays.com/articles/wm-27.htm
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Alright, I stand corrected on that point, but the main thrust of my post remains the same: I just don't hear anything in Jarre's examples that sound tonally superior to Jones -- other than the richer accompaniment of instruments. The sounds I hear all retain that 'tinny synth' quality that makes them distinctively from the '80s. Jones' work might rely a little heavily on the synthesizer, but I don't see (or hear!) any reason to fault him for the instrument's sound.
 
If STD is like other current shows, then there won't really be an opening theme to speak of. The logo will just flash on screen for a few seconds along with a brief identifying musical phrase.

Kor
 
Kor said:
If STD is like other current shows, then there won't really be an opening theme to speak of. The logo will just flash on screen for a few seconds along with a brief identifying musical phrase.

Kor
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I believe they have confirmed, though, that there will be a full title sequence with opening theme.
 
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I believe what you hear in this clip is an edit; you can hear that the closing notes are probably from Alexander courage's fanfare, which was confirmed that would be incorporated.
 
Kor said:
If STD is like other current shows, then there won't really be an opening theme to speak of. The logo will just flash on screen for a few seconds along with a brief identifying musical phrase.

Kor
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They have said there will be an opening theme music and was played for critics.
 
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