The Misc. Police Racism and Brutality Megathread
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Cops are getting more triggerhappy. Usually it's like three fatalities a day.
Most people I know rate security guards slightly lower than Used Car Salesmen.
Of interesting note, a quick scroll tells me that minorities are NOT the only, nor a majority, of those being killed by police. I saw children, women and men who are white and black.
Even if a person could not care less about blacks being killed by police, a scroll through that list of faces should make them concerned, too!
The number of blacks killed are disproportionate though. It's also interesting to note that women are a very small minority on that list.
Incidentally enough, I know a few really polite and honest used car salesman.
Painting security guards with a broad brush is an exercise that I find a bit ridiculous, and one that does not match my experiences. I am not one to flaunt expertise, but I do have a considerable amount of interaction with security guards and security companies and I have found that the vast majority of the individuals employed have no desire to be cops, nor have any notions beyond a steady paycheck and flexible hours.
I talked about my anecdotal assessment of their general public image, just as you posted your anecdotal assessment that they're representative of a bygone era of awe shucks Andy Taylor and Barney Fife style policing.
But if you want concrete examples of the multitude of issues with the private security industry, here you go. It's long but well worth the read:
https://www.revealnews.org/article/americas-gun-toting-security-guards-may-not-be-fit-for-duty/
And these two articles are informative as well:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...f6e02e-8f79-11e4-a900-9960214d4cd7_story.html
This one's from your neck of the woods:
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...ty-guards-security-companies-security-officer
Obviously, no one is saying all or even most security guards are bad people, just as they aren't saying that about police, but there are A LOT of problems in the industry.
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It is basically a lack of a want to train their employees by security companies and places of employment that have a security dept. Security work is tough based on what is actually done coupled by a more-than likely employer who does not see the value in having a quality employee versus a cheap-insurance policy with security paraphernalia. As a former site Security Supervisor for a small Security Company, I was put in charge of various client sites and I trained the crap out of my squads on my own time because the company only wanted to do the bare minimum allowed by the state because they didn't want to pay for it. My squads were professional and they were able to gain more clients by reputation until the higher ups started to intervene and wanted to take credit.
From talking with other individuals who had similar backgrounds, it was common practice by other security companies to half-ass their training.
From talking with other individuals who had similar backgrounds, it was common practice by other security companies to half-ass their training.
Police Shoot Unarmed Man
Police shoot an unarmed man in the head (he had a thing in his arms that looked like a gun.... sorta.) As the man lay there with his brains seeping out the back of his skull they proceed to go over to him, flop him over and begin cuffing him.
Because, an unconscious man now missing a chunk of his brain is a threat, see.
Police shoot an unarmed man in the head (he had a thing in his arms that looked like a gun.... sorta.) As the man lay there with his brains seeping out the back of his skull they proceed to go over to him, flop him over and begin cuffing him.
Because, an unconscious man now missing a chunk of his brain is a threat, see.
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What's worse, is that he was flagging down the officers for help with his injured arm, which is why it was wrapped in a towel, which apparently looks like a gun to police for some reason.
It's pretty bad when you have to weigh the options of whether seeking police assistance for an arm wound (or what caused it) is worth the chance of being shot in the head instead.
It seems like the police "drop your gun" warning calls are just given as a cover-your-ass formality almost simultaneous with shots being fired rather than actually saying them and waiting for the suspect or innocent civilian in this case to have time to respond, which renders the warning completely pointless except as a later legal defense.
That's what happened in the Tamir Rice case as well. The police rolled up on him too fast and too close with no room to take cover or maneuver, and fired the fatal shots just two seconds after arriving and almost the same instant as ordering the child to drop the (toy) gun, which it wasn't clear he was even holding at the time or if it was in his jacket.
Yeah, the "we thought he had a gun" defense or, as I like to call it, the "Uncle Jimbo Defense," is becoming way too common. Maybe I've learned too much about the police from watching TV, movies and playing the "Police Quest" games from the '80s but I always thought you pointed your gun at a threat, gave him something of a chance to drop the weapon and then if he doesn't act right away or, makes a threatening move or does something to suggest use of the gun rather than dropping it THEN you take some-kind-of action. Not "drop the..."gun" :blam: :blam: :blam: :blam: :blam: (because it takes five shots to drop someone.)
This encounter makes very, very little sense. How in the world did they see this man with his arm wrapped in a towel and think he had a gun and then think he had the gun as a genuine enough threat to open fire?
And they've trying to say the turning him over and cuffing him was "standard procedure," which, yeah, maybe. For someone who maybe went down willingly or is suffering from a comparatively benign wound but this guy suffered a massive head wound (insert SNL skit jingle here), was prone on the ground and not moving at all. Was it really called for the flop him over and start cuffing him as his brains leaked from his skull? Isn't that potentially going to cause him more injury?
What the fuck is going on here?
And, of course -according to reports- the man was Hispanic.
An ex-cop from Baltimore is tweeting about all the nasty things he saw on the job.
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His twitter is here and he promises to next talk about city corruption he's witnessed.
If you wonder how true these sorts of things are, check out the Baltimore Sun's excellent in-depth expose on the BCPD's long history of brutality, most of which has been racially-motivated.
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His twitter is here and he promises to next talk about city corruption he's witnessed.
If you wonder how true these sorts of things are, check out the Baltimore Sun's excellent in-depth expose on the BCPD's long history of brutality, most of which has been racially-motivated.
So potentially that's the following offenses :-
Assault
Excessive Force
Vandalism
Racial Profilling
If a non Police Officer commited these offenses we would rightly expect them to be arrested and hopefully prosecuted. No one is above the law.
I propose this for most police forces in (North) America, as done in Japan (but with a few modifications):
Law enforcement in Japan: Conditions of service
Until we get this kind of training here for our police forces, we're all going to continue to be in trouble.
Law enforcement in Japan: Conditions of service
Until we get this kind of training here for our police forces, we're all going to continue to be in trouble.
Security Guards are really just temp workers--often forced to do clerical work at less than clerical pay. In Alabama at least, you have to have training and a $60 license. One company lost its contract to a janitorial service, that does de facto "watching" over the place, which allows them to skirt the law: http://www.asrb.alabama.gov/
More chilling than the cop who came in too hot at the pool party, is this:
http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2015/...ment-has-two-hate-group-members-on-the-force/
It looks like a hacker is trying to destroy that site--it tries to close the page to keep one from reading it--so here is this
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/ala...e-supremacist-cops-even-if-they-join-the-kkk/
Interview with the ex-cop who tweeted about Baltimore.
Fairly, a lot of people have wondered why he didn't report what he saw. The answer is unsurprising:
Fairly, a lot of people have wondered why he didn't report what he saw. The answer is unsurprising:
A man walks down a crowded state road in Daytona Beach, Florida and into a Burger King to get a drink carrying a loaded assault rifle he doesn't have a concealed carry permit for to "guard against all the crazies out there" (which doesn't include himself, of course), terrifying tourists, and police just give him a citation to appear in court for the misdemeanor and send him on his way.
Guess what color he is? It's a tough one.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-...ink_relatedcontent_2014_morepopularheadlines2
Guess what color he is? It's a tough one.
Well, shucks, Lo he's just a good ol' boy out looking for some respite from this killer heat. Ain't no harm in that. He wasn't meanin' no harm. Any good ol' boy officer would have done same for anyone and you can't prove no different. Why you gotta bring race into this?
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No, seriously, if he was black he'd totally be dead or at least have critical injuries right now.
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No, seriously, if he was black he'd totally be dead or at least have critical injuries right now.
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