The Mirror War

[Tuskin38]

On the contrary -- Smiley's whole personality in "Crossover" precludes it. Smiley in "Crossover" is a timid, broken man with no hope, a man who's never even considered the possibility that he could be anything more than a slave until Bashir convinced him it could.

Moreover, there is no Starfleet anymore in the DS9 Mirror Universe. The Empire was defeated decades ago and whole generations of humans were raised as slaves. IDW's retcon that a sliver of the Empire managed to persist long enough for Picard to command the Stargazer was enough of a stretch already, but if they're now extending that into the TNG era, then that's just not the same Mirror Universe we saw in canon.

Propaganda can be a powerful tool.

Alliance propaganda says the empire is gone, destroyed. We only saw the universe in DS9 from their perspective, and mostly those who grew up under them. The Empire is only a single well guarded system now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it fell by the end of the story.

Miles was betrayed by Leah, and then the proceeding years working on the station probably broke him.

The comic is trying to line up with what was shown in DS9. All the main characters are there. Kira is Intendant, Worf is Regant, Miles is now at Terok Nor. Sisko is working for the Intendant.

 

[Christopher]

Alliance propaganda says the empire is gone, destroyed. We only saw the universe in DS9 from their perspective, and mostly those who grew up under them. The Empire is only a single well guarded system now. I wouldn’t be surprised if it fell by the end of the story.

Miles was betrayed by Leah, and then the proceeding years working on the station probably broke him.

The comic is trying to line up with what was shown in DS9. All the main characters are there. Kira is Intendant, Worf is Regant, Miles is now at Terok Nor. Sisko is working for the Intendant.

I just don't buy it. It's stretching things way too far from the explicit intent of the DS9 Mirror episodes.

Also -- "The Empire is only a single well guarded system now?" That's a contradiction in terms! An empire, by definition, is one state ruling over multiple other states. If it's just one system, it's not an empire.

 

[Tuskin38]

Preview pages for tomorrow's issue
https://twitter.com/gutter_hero/status/1488549839159836674

 

[F. King Daniel]

Also -- "The Empire is only a single well guarded system now?" That's a contradiction in terms! An empire, by definition, is one state ruling over multiple other states. If it's just one system, it's not an empire

Like they're going to admit that and rename themselves

 

[dupersuper]

So in this continuity former Terran Starfleet members like O'Brien get sent to Terok Nor as slaves?

Yeah: I'm just ignoring the O'Brien bit. It seems very clear to me from Smiley's reaction to Bashir being a doctor that Smiley was raised a slave.

 

[indianatrekker26]

I'm just going with this being a different quantum reality very similar to the MU. I'm sure that isnt IDWs intent, but to have this be the actual MU as depicted on screen from the various DS9 episodes.

 

[Tuskin38]

It doesn't have to be anything. It's intended to be the same as DS9 so that's what it is.

 

[Therin of Andor]

This has honestly been one of the most boring comic series I have read. The story feels like it going nowhere.

I was coming here to comment that I, too, have been underwhelmed. I kept realising that I had not yet read #3 and suddenly #4 was here. The covers are great, but the story is just meandering.

 

[JoeZhang]

Yep - it's just spinning it's wheels and like Christopher I agree it just does not fit with what we see on-screen.

 

[Stevil2001]

A Tipton-penned Star Trek comic that goes nowhere? Say it ain't so!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Also -- "The Empire is only a single well guarded system now?" That's a contradiction in terms! An empire, by definition, is one state ruling over multiple other states. If it's just one system, it's not an empire.

The Terran Empire existed for quite a while on Earth alone, before expanding into space.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yep - it's just spinning it's wheels and like Christopher I agree it just does not fit with what we see on-screen.

Fits fine in my view.

 

[Enterpriserules]

I was coming here to comment that I, too, have been underwhelmed. I kept realising that I had not yet read #3 and suddenly #4 was here. The covers are great, but the story is just meandering.

100%!

 

[DarKush]

Finished the LaForge one shot a little while ago. I really enjoyed that. But as for the main Mirror War series itself? It's not really doing it for me. The covers are great, but the individual issues I've read have been underwhelming. It's just the concept is so cool that it keeps drawing me back in.

I sort of feel the same way about the whole Mirror Universe mini franchise. I thought Mirror Broken was the strongest arc, but then it started going downhill. There were still some neat things that were happening, but rarely did I feel it was hitting homeruns.

 

[ryan123450]

Just read the Sisko one shot. Had the author ever watched DS9? So many basic continuity problems. And it actually had nothing to do with The Mirror War.

 

[Bryan Levy]

Just read the Sisko one shot. Had the author ever watched DS9? So many basic continuity problems. And it actually had nothing to do with The Mirror War.

At this point, Mirror War is interminably long. Where are the characters I like, the actual 24th Century characters? This has gotten boring, as far as I’m concerned.

 

[DarKush]

Just read the Sisko one shot. Had the author ever watched DS9? So many basic continuity problems. And it actually had nothing to do with The Mirror War.

Thank you. I read the issue too, and while the meat of the story itself wasn't bad, it really needed someone who had seen the DS9 Mirror episodes to make it fit. I'm guessing the IDW Mirror books are an alternate Mirror Universe from the prime one. It's just too many changes they've made where it can't fit.

 

[ryan123450]

I pretty well wish a new company would get the comics license. IDW has been way more ‘miss’ than ‘hit’ for quite a while.

 

[Bryan Levy]

If I can make an assumption, I’d say that we all consider the “Volume Two” era of Trek comics a golden age. IDW did some good stuff with the Kelvin universe, but for me, that DC stuff was the tops. If I could hazard a guess, it’s that increased corporate interference (Richard Arnold not withstanding) makes those kind of freewheeling random adventures hard to publish.

 

[ryan123450]

Yes I’m nearing completion of the Complete Comics Collection DVD after many years, and the two best eras of Trek comics were DC Vol 2 (TOS and TNG) and 90s Marvel. I’d love another Enterprise-A series, or a continuation of Starfleet Academy.