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The Mirror Universe Does not exist

^ I was just writing the exact same thing, and was just about to click 'post', when the message popped up that there was another post added to the thread. So I erased mine, and will just 'like' yours instead! :D
 
That proves my idea. I will check, but from memory it didn't sound like Worf. Also, how did three weak Birds-Of-Prey (that were easily destroyed by Defiant and DS9 in one or two hits) even if they are K'Vort Light Cruisers, not get destroyed and how this do so much damage and eventually destroy a powerful GALAXY-Class DREADNAUGHT (heavy weapons and shields).
 
Did the showrunners ever actually consider doing that? Was Michael Dorn ever approached about doing that line?

Well, MA says this:

Memory Alpha said:
The shooting script indicated that the voice heard over the com demanding the crew's surrender could be "possibly Worf" however in the episode the demand ended up being made by an unknown Klingon.

But I don't know where the contributor got this information, or how true it is.

(Source)
 
The voice as used in the final episode was definitely not Worf. Perhaps they thought it would be an example of small-universe syndrome?
 
^ I always thought that it should have been Worf who delivered the line (in Yesterday's Enterprise) about "Federation ship Enterprise, surrender and prepare to be boarded!"
This would have been cool. But it might have conflicted with Worf's personal history. Ent-C was from 2344, Worf was born before that, in 2340. Without Feds helping, Worf might have died as a child in Khitomer at 2346.
 
This would have been cool. But it might have conflicted with Worf's personal history. Ent-C was from 2344, Worf was born before that, in 2340. Without Feds helping, Worf might have died as a child in Khitomer at 2346.

Good point. Although with the changes to the timeline, it's also possible Worf's family never moved to Khitomer in the first place. It still would have been a fun fan moment, and with time shenanigans, you can pretty much explain away *anything*! ;)
 
Yes, but that (in the credits) didn't necessarily really exist, @Mr. Laser Beam. That was only in the credits, not shown in any display. But the rest of what you say makes sense.
No, if it happened in the credits, it did exist. The credits of that episode depicts the history of the MU in general and the Terran Empire specifically, just as Enterprise's normal credits depicts the history of ships named Enterprise and Earth's exploration. Also worth noting, in the episode there is a mention to the Terran Empire having been around for centuries. Also, at the end of the opening credits when we see an animated representation of the Empire's logo (dagger through a globe) the Earth is depicted rotating the wrong way. I've speculated this could mean in the MU Earth does spin in the opposite direction, meaning the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. Although others in the know have indicated to me this would have resulted in the continents forming in different shapes. Ah well, fun idea anyway.
 
Yes, that's another area where the idea kind of falls apart.

If the scenario was supposed to be some kind of lesson or test, I think the episode would have made it clear with one last encounter with god-like Halkans giving Kirk a little lecture at the end of the episode.

Kor

Where is the Halkan Prediction of Galactic Revolt supposed to take place? From the tenor of Prime Kirk's conversation with Tharn, it isn't intimated that such an utterance occurred at any point of the contact. My impression of the Halkans was of a supernally morally and ethically centered civilization, but not one of any special powers or capacities. If such were the case, why would Tharn suggest a vulnerability that didn't, in fact, exist. How would Prime Kirk learn of the Prediction, if not directly? It would seem unlikely the Mirror landing party's visit would have been a repeat one, as one would suspect that an initial unsuccessful in-person threat by a Mirror force would be the only one, to be immidiately followed by destruction of the resistant population. Although we don't see it, Kirk may have learned of the Prediction from Spock through his report of communications from the landing party before the attempted return to the ship.

It is worth noting that the fine novel Sorrows of Empire picks up almost immediatley after the return of the Mirror landing party. Spock , catalyzed by Prime Kirk's words, realizes that he must follow on the path that Kirk suggested. Despite his best attempts, Spock is unable to prevent Mirror Kirk from annihilating the Halkans, but murders Kirk right afterwards and initiates the sophisticated plan that will lead to the destruction of the Empire, but an eventual resurrection of a pacific version of that body, but only after catastrophic losses of life inflicted by the original Empire's enemies. I though it a very effective rendering of a logical proposition that would take many years to bear its ultimate fruit.
 
Yes, but that theory is incorrect. In the story "In a Mirror, Darkly" (ENT) they explain what caused the Mirror Universe. What caused it? The Borg didn't come to invade Earth in the 21st century. So, the Enterprise-E didn't come. So Zefram Cochrane didn't become a better person (and make friends with the Vulcans under Jean-Luc's influence). Instead, "Zef" shot the Vulcans. They died, so the Empire came into existence (under his influence). Everyone else decided to follow the "Man who Invented Warp Drive". The Mirror Universe started because of something in the 24th Century (in the prime-normal). Before the time when the Borg would have come to Earth, everything was the same. Same universe. When Cochrane killed the Vulcans, the first major difference began and they really split off.

I don't think so. Zefram Cochrane was a good man before Picard showed up. He wouldn't have just killed in cold blood. The Mirror Universe always existed and their version of Cochrane was evil.
 
I've always viewed the mirror universe as having some strange negative force within it that has influenced the development of everything.
 
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