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Well...."Timotheus" is perfectly good Latin and the "normal" way of latinising a name is just to add the first declension ending applicable to the gender (Hortonus). The problem is that "Tim Hortons" is a genitive in the first place so what is the modified noun? It was when I got to deciding "popina" was the best fit that I realised the ridiculousness of what I was doing and walked away.

Then you caught me and I walked right back.

"Et tu, popina Timothee Hortone". Hmmm...


Just looked up what a poppina was (and isn't ending "a" the female in Latin e.g Julia?) and given that the what as available varied in quality, it's probably quite appropriate :)
 
I hadn't heard about the Peppermint Timbits, but I find it strange that you would be hearing about them, as usually ads, especially if they're online ads, are localized, if indeed they're only sold in the U.S. Could it be they're only sold in limited locations in Canada?

Oh, it wasn't ads. I was reading about them online because I specifically Googled to find out what special holiday treats they were putting on the menu for 2023. So you get all the food related sites that discuss restaurant menu changes and such. So some of the sites were obviously American, and they didn't feel like they had to specify "American Tims Hortons only", because they probably assumed their audience was American. And it's partly my own fault, too, because I saw some articles talking about the peppermint Timbits and holiday tree doughnuts and hot cocoa muffins, and then other articles talking about the Bailey's-themed baked goods, and I didn't put two and two together to realize one group was from one country and one was from the other. So my bad, there.

And then there were also the Reddit posts talking about how good the Timbits were. There was nothing on the posts that identified nationality, and I guess I have preconceived notions that when people talk about Timmies, they're probably Canadians? :shrug:

ETA: That "hmmm..." was well placed. Having said that "Tim Hortons" was a genitive, I promptly failed to use the genitive. :brickwall: Only the "popina" should be vocative.

It should be "Et tu popina Timothei Hortoni"

I know no Latin whatsoever, so I'm just going to believe whatever you come up with! :D

Remember to pass it on the left hand side.

... I have absolutely no idea what this refers to! :lol:

I know that explaining a joke ruins the joke, yet here we are. :)
 
And then there were also the Reddit posts talking about how good the Timbits were. There was nothing on the posts that identified nationality, and I guess I have preconceived notions that when people talk about Timmies, they're probably Canadians? :shrug:


Ahh, yeah I guess it would be easy to be confused about that in that sense. And I agree, pretty much every review site is centered around the American market, but it's easy to make the assumption that any Timmies talk would be Canadian. But if it's any consolation, these new things we can't get are usually a sign of future products to come. A few years ago, I happened to be travelling to the U.S, and we crossed the border at Cornwall, and once you cross over there are a number of American Tim Hortons, and it's a bit of a bizzare mirror universe where it seems familiar but isn't quite what it seems. In particular, the menu was completely different, offering up menu items that weren't available in Canada. We were there for breakfast and I had something called a Maple Waffle Breakfast Sandwhich, and that was months before they rolled out something similar in Canadian locations. My guess is that we'll get the Peppermint Timbits next year.

Btw, as an aside, and speaking of food reviews, I came across a food review channel on Youtube that compare the menus of fast food chains from different countries, by trying everything on the menu. One video was about Tim Hortons, although somewhat perplexing, they chose to compare US Tim Hortons and UK Tim Hortons, barely acknowledging Canada in the process. Like, way to insult a potential audience.

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Btw, as an aside, and speaking of food reviews, I came across a food review channel on Youtube that compare the menus of fast food chains from different countries, by trying everything on the menu. One video was about Tim Hortons, although somewhat perplexing, they chose to compare US Tim Hortons and UK Tim Hortons, barely acknowledging Canada in the process. Like, way to insult a potential audience.

wonder if they simply thought thing were the same between the U.S and Canada.

When mum was here in the Summer she did think Canadian coffee was better that the American stuff (it was too bitter) but don't think she had a timmies.
 
wonder if they simply thought thing were the same between the U.S and Canada.

It's possible, but it still seems like quite an oversight. They have this big franchise they're doing a review of, and it feels like they're not doing simple research? They barely even acknowledge a Canadian connection, which makes it feel like they haven't even tried, and also make it sound like an American franchise.
 
I'd guess it's part of a promotional campaign and the point was to advertise US and UK Tim's. Everyone in Canada already knows and is in a love/hate relationship with Tim's.
 
Btw, as an aside, and speaking of food reviews, I came across a food review channel on Youtube that compare the menus of fast food chains from different countries, by trying everything on the menu. One video was about Tim Hortons, although somewhat perplexing, they chose to compare US Tim Hortons and UK Tim Hortons, barely acknowledging Canada in the process. Like, way to insult a potential audience.

Well, that's certainly a choice! :lol:

"On the next Food Wars, we compare Burger Kings in Sweden vs Japan!" ;)

But in seriousness, in looking over their channel, the Food Wars videos almost always seem to be "someplace (or multiple someplaces) vs US". They probably have to include the US because most of their viewers are American or something. I think I only saw a couple that didn't include the US, and they were both "India vs UK".

Plus they are probably limited to countries where they have presenters. UK was obviously a big one on the channel, and I believe I also saw India, Italy, China and Japan show up more than once.

That being said, they should probably consider hiring a Canadian presenter. While there are probably a lot of menu similarities between Canada and the US, there are probably enough differences to be interesting. Especially considering the videos where they look at snack foods and candies.

I think my biggest takeaway was how great those UK doughnuts looked! And now I want that red velvet one to show up here sooner rather than later. You hear me, Timmies??

wonder if they simply thought thing were the same between the U.S and Canada.

And in fairness, the selections from the US in the video did seem a lot closer to ours than the UK ones. I think the doughnuts were pretty much identical. There did seem to be more differences in the drinks, though.

One thing that did get me on the US menu was the two flavours of "TimsBoost with Red Bull"! Yeah, that checks out as an American creation! :lol:
 
But in seriousness, in looking over their channel, the Food Wars videos almost always seem to be "someplace (or multiple someplaces) vs US". They probably have to include the US because most of their viewers are American or something. I think I only saw a couple that didn't include the US, and they were both "India vs UK".


Right, and I understand that too, although what they could have done at the beginning was explain that this was actually a franchise that started in Canada and expanded over time to include the US and other countries. Otherwise, it sounds kind of daft. and I'm not gonna lie, it sounds like a bit of a slight as well. And it puts too much assumption on the viewers. They would have come off better if they had tried to educate.
 
Right, and I understand that too, although what they could have done at the beginning was explain that this was actually a franchise that started in Canada and expanded over time to include the US and other countries. Otherwise, it sounds kind of daft. and I'm not gonna lie, it sounds like a bit of a slight as well. And it puts too much assumption on the viewers. They would have come off better if they had tried to educate.

That's fair.

There were a couple instances later in the video where they made comments about Canada/Canadians, that sort of implied that it was a Canadian chain, but yeah, I don't recall them saying it outright. Maybe there was a line about that that got cut in editing, or something. Or possibly they just made the assumption that everyone knew, what with the maple leafs all over everything.

Speaking of Tim Hortons, if any of you are chocoholics like myself, you should try the Chocolate Lava Dream Cookies! They're pretty great, but they're part of the holiday menu, so limited time only. I hope to go back and get some more sometime before they're gone! :)
 
There were a couple instances later in the video where they made comments about Canada/Canadians, that sort of implied that it was a Canadian chain, but yeah, I don't recall them saying it outright. Maybe there was a line about that that got cut in editing, or something. Or possibly they just made the assumption that everyone knew, what with the maple leafs all over everything.

I guess it bothers me more than it should, because as Canadians we're always inundated by American companies and media that we consume, and we have to work twice or three times as hard just to keep our heads above the water so to speak. It's not very often to have a Canadian company be successful outside our Country, so to have something not even acknowledge its history feels wrong. And yeah, I know some reading might say, 'But it's part of a Brazilian Multinational that also owns Burger King now, so it's not even really Canadian anymore." But does that really matter? Canada has a cultural pride associated with Tim Hortons because of its history within Canada, and it's something that doesn't change just because of new owners, even though its quality is questionable these days.

What I'd love for them is to do another Tim Hortons review, and this time do the US vs Canada, which I feel it should have been in the first place. I think everyone can agree that would be interesting. Tim Hortons US vs UK felt like one bizzaro universe against another, from my standpoint.
 
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Theo Moudakis, Toronto Star
Jan 9, 2024
 
I've seen some YT videos of trains actually running on the Eglinton line in Toronto. The service isn't actually open yet, is it?

I mean, part of Hell IS frozen over, so I guess it's possible... :lol:
 
Testing out the trains and the tracks before opening it up to regular service...?

Seems to be standard practice whenever (re)opening passenger train service...
 
I find it reassuring that they're running such tests first. They don't catch everything that can go wrong - I can link you to lots of ongoing stuff about the O-Train services here in Ottawa! - and it's still helpful.
 
I find it reassuring that they're running such tests first. They don't catch everything that can go wrong - I can link you to lots of ongoing stuff about the O-Train services here in Ottawa! - and it's still helpful.

Ottawa ran the tests and then when the tests failed they changed the requirements for the test to be deemed successful so that they wouldn't be marked as failures to delay the opening
 
Yeah. Meanwhile, the existence of the trains was used to justify selling off buses rather than boosting trips/hour frequency on all the routes.
 
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