Yeah, he looked more like Sebastian Stan in this even though Stan wasn't cast - despite some predictions. 
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So I take it Sebastian Stan looks a bit like Mark Hamill to some people?Yeah, he looked more like Sebastian Stan in this even though Stan wasn't cast - despite some predictions.
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Sort of from some angles.
Moff Gideon ended up being a paper tiger in the end, didn’t he? Maybe if Mando hadn’t threatened him we could buy that it was the element of surprise but he ended up seeming a bit of a chump.
Did you watch Rebels, by chance? Because this is brought up there as well. When Sabine reveals to Bo-Katan that she has the Darksaber, Bo-Katan's first reaction is to ask if she defeated Maul to take it. And she initially sneers at Sabine when the latter confesses that she did not, in fact, defeat Maul in combat.
Later, Bo-Katan accepts in from Sabine, but that's AFTER Sabine has earned her respect by kicking ass and taking names during the action on Mandalore. From Bo-Katan's perspective, Sabine had become enough the rightful heir to the blade to be able to pass it to another, since Sabine had no interest in wielding it herself.
It seems clear that whatever has happened in the years since, things did not go well for Mandalore. I posted upthread the fact that this inconsistency is almost certainly narratively driven. Hardcore fans are supposed to be looking at Bo-Katan and wondering what has changed since the last time we saw her offered the blade.
But think about it. When last we saw her, she'd been gifted the Darksaber and united the clans. But we now know that the Empire returned to Mandalore. While we don't have details, it is clear it did not go well for the Mandalorians. Bo-Katan is essentially a vanquished queen. She couldn't protect her people, lacked the strength to defend her world. Just holding the sword isn't enough, not anymore. A bad boxing metaphor: she's the ex-champ, and sure, she has the belt back because of some technicality, but she still hasn't beaten the guy who beat her. So is she really the champ at all?
Doubt is a powerful thing, and it has laid low regimes before. (Doctor Who famously riffed on this with the Doctor toppling a Prime Minister with what, 7 or 8 words? "Don't you think that she looks tired?" or something to that effect, as I recall.) Bo-Katan doesn't need the Darksaber to rule, she needs to beat the guy who took it from her to prove she still has the swagger and the skill to deserve that right. But now that ship has sailed.
Boba Fett said that the Empire "turned the planet into glass." That implies a near-genocidal level of violence that destroyed the planetary infrastructure and left the remaining inhabitants fending for basic everyday survival. Whatever happened it was a level of violence that even Mandalorian warriors couldn't cope with.
"Don't pretend you don't know me, Obi-Wan. I hid your deathsticks that night, remember?"
He fought decently, but lost against full beskar plus a spear. I know nothing of EU, but he's a moff, not a grand moff? And the empire is fragmented? So I'm cool with him being not all powerful. Seems realistic.
So, been thinking things over, and I realized that it was perhaps a mistake to have that scene last week where Din had to remove his helmet while at the Imperial refinery since now because of that we know he's not adhering to The Way as strictly as he was in season 1 in that he's already removed his helmet but is continuing to wear it afterwards anyway, which I'm thinking robs his good-bye with Grogu some extra poignancy. Yes, it's still significant in that this is the first time he's voluntarily removed his helmet in the presence of others (last week it was by necessity to access the computer terminal), I'm thinking that if we hadn't had that scene last week, it could have really been a significant moment. For the first time ever, he removes his helmet in front of others in order to say good-bye to Grogu, then we end on him standing there without his helmet. If we hadn't had the scene last week, that could also have driven a question of what is Din's status now? Is he going to adhere to the Way and not put the helmet on again, or is he going to continue wearing the helmet and follow a more liberal interpretation of the Mandalorian code, like Bo-Katan and her Mandalorians so? Instead, we can pretty much assume he's following the liberal interpretation.
Granted, it doesn't change much, and indeed the fact that there's going to be a third season makes means we'd have our answer anyway, but I still think it would have made a good note to end things on all the same.
Granted, it doesn't change much, and indeed the fact that there's going to be a third season makes means we'd have our answer anyway, but I still think it would have made a good note to end things on all the same.
Tarkin was the only Grand Moff, at least officially speaking, meaning the only person to have been appointed Grand Moff by Palpatine. In the Aftermath trilogy there's a Moff who appointed himself Grand Moff after Endor, but otherwise that's it.
He knew exactly what he was doing. He was aware he couldn't penetrate that beskar and he knew Din would not kill him. He fully understood the ramifications of Din taking the Dark Blade. It was all planned and executed perfectly by him. It was only after the Jedi showing up that he knew he was now fucked.
On the positive side of all of this, at least the NR bounty for taking in an Imperial clone doctor AND a Moff alive should be more than enough for Dyn to buy himself a new ship and equipment. Maybe when we see him again he'll be running with a full crew...or maybe he'll be a New Republic Ranger. It would feel a bit strange to see him just revert back to his old lone hunter ways.
Oh and I noticed a quite few people expressing frustration that the show can't make up it's mind if Boba is Mandalorian or not. This is what happens when one doesn't pay attention and jumps to conclusions. I mean Dyn asked him straight out two episodes ago and he said "I’m a simple man making his way through the galaxy. Like my father before me.", and when Dyn asked him if he'd ever taken the Creed, and he replies: "I give my allegiance to no one."
I mean who watches that and thinks "well that's a definite YES!"
And before anyone points it out, no, the chain code doesn't contradict this, it just proves his father was a foundling and thus Boba has a right to inherit the armor (Bo-Katan even established a precedent saying her's had been passed down for 3 generations.)
Even if I'm misremembering; there is a 4 year gap between ANH & RotJ, so it's not impossible for Palpatine to have appointed a new Grand Moff after Tarkin snuffed it at Yavin. Actually, knowing Palpatine he probably appointed several to make sure they vied for power among themselves and not with him.
Oh and I noticed a quite few people expressing frustration that the show can't make up it's mind if Boba is Mandalorian or not. This is what happens when one doesn't pay attention and jumps to conclusions. I mean Dyn asked him straight out two episodes ago and he said "I’m a simple man making his way through the galaxy. Like my father before me.", and when Dyn asked him if he'd ever taken the Creed, and he replies: "I give my allegiance to no one."
I mean who watches that and thinks "well that's a definite YES!"
And before anyone points it out, no, the chain code doesn't contradict this, it just proves his father was a foundling and thus Boba has a right to inherit the armor (Bo-Katan even established a precedent saying her's had been passed down for 3 generations.)
Pretty sure there was at least one other Grand Moff mentioned in 'Lost Stars' and maybe one or more of the 'Aftermath' books. IIRC the Grand Moffs were supposed to be in charge of large swaths of Imperial territory with lesser Moffs and Governors beneath them. In Tarkin's case his territory was pretty much the entire outer rim, so one would assume there's at least one or two others covering the core, the Mid-rim, etc.
Even if I'm misremembering; there is a 4 year gap between ANH & RotJ, so it's not impossible for Palpatine to have appointed a new Grand Moff after Tarkin snuffed it at Yavin. Actually, knowing Palpatine he probably appointed several to make sure they vied for power among themselves and not with him.
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I was thinking of the Tarkin novel, where Palpatine appoints him Grand Moff at the end, with the implication that this was a unique circumstance and that the title wasn't one that existed until now. I could be misremembering, it has been five years since I read it.
Oh yeah! I do remember that now, that makes sense, thank you!
Because it's too late now.
And while Stan is in his late 30s now, he has the benefit of looking quite young for his age (not to mention having access to professional trainers, nutritionists, and Hollywood makeup artists). He's certainly close enough to do the job, and IIRC even Hamill himself has tweeted about it in the past.
