Spoilers The Mandalorian season 2 discussion
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Anakin's development was sorely needed.
Wrestlers like The Rock and Hulk Hogan personally own the rights to their stage names, which is why they could use them when they branched out into Hollywood.
Honestly, the order the episodes aired is easiest way to watch it. And since it's the order most of us watched the show in, it's definitely easy to follow the show through that format.
Different priorities I would guess. In the early days, Dwayne Johnson was capitalizing on his popularity as The Rock, and thus why he went by that name in his acting credits. Indeed, when he guest starred on Voyager for example that was specifically set up as a sort of crossover event between wrestling and Star Trek, so of course they were going to list him as The Rock in the credits. Sasha Banks/Mercedes Vernado may be trying to establish a separation between her wrestling career and her acting career, thus why she's automatically going by her real name now that she's acting.
Big Show was also credited with his stage name in ENT since UPN was likely still airing wrestling at the time and that appearance was also considered an in-network crossover.
He's also Leia's future adopted father.Ok, Senator. Still learning who everyone is.
I did not know that. So does mean other wrestler's stage names belong to the WWE?
Some more Agents of SHIELD actors this week to add to Ming Na Wen's appearance last year.
The Imperial Captain was played by Titus Welliver who played Agent Felix Blake in two episodes, and Mandalorian Axe Woves was played by Simon Kassianides, who played the Hydra agent Sunil Bakshi in 12 episodes. I recognized Welliver immediately from SHIELD and several other things, but I didn't realize that was Kassianides until the end credits. Not surprisingly, the two shows share a casting director.
The Imperial Captain was played by Titus Welliver who played Agent Felix Blake in two episodes, and Mandalorian Axe Woves was played by Simon Kassianides, who played the Hydra agent Sunil Bakshi in 12 episodes. I recognized Welliver immediately from SHIELD and several other things, but I didn't realize that was Kassianides until the end credits. Not surprisingly, the two shows share a casting director.
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Yes, for the most part, even though the company officially lists its employees as independent contractors.
Also, with regards to Hogan, he now solely owns a "license in perpetuity" to use the 'Hulk' name even though said license was originally sought and secured by both himself and the WWE.
All these SHIELD connections keep me hoping we'll eventually get Chloe Bennet as Doctor Aphra.
It was messy and drawn out. Neither side was happy.
The majority are that way, typically unless a wrestler was already had history and was known before coming into the WWE (Ric Flair, Brock Lesnar, AJ Styles, Ronda Rousey) they are (re)branded with a stage name that the WWE trademarks and owns. Even Dave Bautista goes by just Batista with no "U" in the WWE though that's a pretty easy one to work around! It's often a challenge when a wrestler wants to move to another promotion because they have to do it without the character and name they are more famously known by. Maybe less so in the internet era where there's so much inside knowledge available to the layman.
The Rock may own his name now but I'm not so sure he did when he started in Hollywood. It's actually been a challenge to google, though I did find this link to back it up: https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2002/apr/21/the_rock_rolls/. There is a clip on youtube with Howard Stern easily found where he talks about negotiating the rights from McMahon but there's no specifics on when this had happened.
It was messy and drawn out. Neither side was happy.
Ohh she would be a good choice.
I might do that, and then skip Season 1 and 2's episode 16 and the two episodes in Season 3. I don't really see the reason to see them in Chronological order because it doesn't really feel chronological. I mean one episode had the clone soldiers doing combat tests and another episode has Yoda and 3 clone soldiers outsmarting Ventress's test. Yeah the planets and locations have been addressed in a few episodes, but I'm not sure if "chronological" is really that important to a show like this.
I must be getting slow in my old age because it just now dawned on me that the implication of Bo Katan being the last of her line mean's Korkie is probably dead.
Which seems weird since they never did really explain how Korkie fit into all of this. Was he Bo Katan's son? Satine and Kenobi's unacknowledged lovechild? Was there a third sibling? If so, what happened to them? I mean I can guess what with one sister spending a year dodging assassins and another joining a warrior death cult, but that's a story that feels like it's just crying out for at least a novel or something!
For example IIRC the episode with Yoda punking Ventress while trying to meet with the Toydarian King was the first episode broadcast (after the movie came out) but there was a later episode (a season 3 Jar-Jar episode IIRC) featuring that meeting being set up.
The clones training episode is there because those guys show up again later, again in an episode that aired early on. A few of them become semi-recurring all through the run of the show. So it's not that each episode directly follows on from the last, it's that some "arcs" are b-plots spread across several seasons and the chronological order is just that; the order in which things happened.
Speaking of the movie; in the opening sequence they're already fighting on Chrystophsis, but that wasn't supposed to be just a random battle but the end of a three episode arc starting with 'Cat And Mouse' & 'Hidden Enemy'...which were broadcast in season two and one respectively (yes, reverse order, a season apart!)
I could be wrong, but I think the way it got like this (at leas in part) is that when Lucas started making the show, he didn't do it the usual way shows like this are made where there's a pilot and then some testing and a bible is written and then some scripts are commissioned as production ramps up.
I think what he did was go through an extensive conceptual phase first, then commission a LOT of scripts so they had several season's worth written and ready before they even started production. Then when he decided to stitch a few episodes into a theatrical release, some of the connected ones got pushed down the schedule, and since they weren't needed to connect to their arc, they just got shoved in wherever.
I think the opposite happened too, where episodes that were intended to air later on down the line were brought up to liven up a patch of action light episode in the first season.
Indeed, a similar thing happened with the "lost episodes" too; the episodes that were released on Netflix after the show was cancelled and is now generally just called Season 6. A pair of them is an Anakin & Padme two-partner that was supposed to air in the previous season but got bumped down the schedule to make room for...shall we say a more attention grabbing arc that was meant to be spaced out but got smooshed together to boost ratings or some such.
Bottom line: yeah, if you've seen the movie, you've gotten Ahsoka & Ventress's introductions so you're pretty much set. There may be a few continuity oddities in the first two seasons (e.g: "wait, didn't that guy die?" or "didn't that mission happen already?"), but you'll know when the show starts to stick to a straight forward chronology once Ahsoka gets slight redesign.
Which seems weird since they never did really explain how Korkie fit into all of this. Was he Bo Katan's son? Satine and Kenobi's unacknowledged lovechild? Was there a third sibling? If so, what happened to them? I mean I can guess what with one sister spending a year dodging assassins and another joining a warrior death cult, but that's a story that feels like it's just crying out for at least a novel or something!
Yeah, it's more of a benefit to a second watch through really. The show works just fine in broadcast order, but if you go back and watch it in chronological suddenly certain minor plot connections make way more sense.
For example IIRC the episode with Yoda punking Ventress while trying to meet with the Toydarian King was the first episode broadcast (after the movie came out) but there was a later episode (a season 3 Jar-Jar episode IIRC) featuring that meeting being set up.
The clones training episode is there because those guys show up again later, again in an episode that aired early on. A few of them become semi-recurring all through the run of the show. So it's not that each episode directly follows on from the last, it's that some "arcs" are b-plots spread across several seasons and the chronological order is just that; the order in which things happened.
Speaking of the movie; in the opening sequence they're already fighting on Chrystophsis, but that wasn't supposed to be just a random battle but the end of a three episode arc starting with 'Cat And Mouse' & 'Hidden Enemy'...which were broadcast in season two and one respectively (yes, reverse order, a season apart!)
I could be wrong, but I think the way it got like this (at leas in part) is that when Lucas started making the show, he didn't do it the usual way shows like this are made where there's a pilot and then some testing and a bible is written and then some scripts are commissioned as production ramps up.
I think what he did was go through an extensive conceptual phase first, then commission a LOT of scripts so they had several season's worth written and ready before they even started production. Then when he decided to stitch a few episodes into a theatrical release, some of the connected ones got pushed down the schedule, and since they weren't needed to connect to their arc, they just got shoved in wherever.
I think the opposite happened too, where episodes that were intended to air later on down the line were brought up to liven up a patch of action light episode in the first season.
Indeed, a similar thing happened with the "lost episodes" too; the episodes that were released on Netflix after the show was cancelled and is now generally just called Season 6. A pair of them is an Anakin & Padme two-partner that was supposed to air in the previous season but got bumped down the schedule to make room for...shall we say a more attention grabbing arc that was meant to be spaced out but got smooshed together to boost ratings or some such.
Bottom line: yeah, if you've seen the movie, you've gotten Ahsoka & Ventress's introductions so you're pretty much set. There may be a few continuity oddities in the first two seasons (e.g: "wait, didn't that guy die?" or "didn't that mission happen already?"), but you'll know when the show starts to stick to a straight forward chronology once Ahsoka gets slight redesign.
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I just noticed, Bo-Katan also has a Whistling Bird
Her basic design takes influences from both Clone Wars and rebels. Her head band is the Clone Wars design, while the way her armour looks around her neck area is how it was in Rebels. While the chest plate is missing those yellow stripe things. Probably just a by product of transitioning from animated to realistic.
Her helmet's paint scheme is how it looked in Clone Wars Season 7 and Rebels.
Her basic design takes influences from both Clone Wars and rebels. Her head band is the Clone Wars design, while the way her armour looks around her neck area is how it was in Rebels. While the chest plate is missing those yellow stripe things. Probably just a by product of transitioning from animated to realistic.
Her helmet's paint scheme is how it looked in Clone Wars Season 7 and Rebels.
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Ooooo, I like that idea.
For anyone who hasn't watched The Clone Wars and Rebels and wants to learn more about Bo-Katan, IGN has posted an article about her appearances on those shows. I'm a little confused though, Wookiepedia only has her appearing in two Rebels episodes, the Heroes of Mandalore two-parter, but IGN has four.
Have any stories ever addressed if Luke and Ahsoka met or were aware of each other?
Ever since the end of Rebels, I thought it was kind of weird that they actually left Ahsoka alive and active going into the Original Trilogy and post Return of the Jedi era.
I find it really hard to believe that they would not have become aware of each other at some point. They are two of the only non-Imperial force users left, and with them both being active in the Rebellion, at different points, they most likely would have interacted with at least a few of the same people. I would think at some point Luke would have run into someone who knew her as Fulcrum, and I can't believe they wouldn't have told him she used lightsabers and the Force. If he did find out about her, I find it very hard to believe he wouldn't do everything he could to track her down.
And from Ahsoka's side I find it hard to believe that the fact that a Rebel pilot named Skywalker destroyed the Death Star wouldn't have reached her, and I would expect the moment she heard that name she would have gone to find him.
Ever since the end of Rebels, I thought it was kind of weird that they actually left Ahsoka alive and active going into the Original Trilogy and post Return of the Jedi era.
I find it really hard to believe that they would not have become aware of each other at some point. They are two of the only non-Imperial force users left, and with them both being active in the Rebellion, at different points, they most likely would have interacted with at least a few of the same people. I would think at some point Luke would have run into someone who knew her as Fulcrum, and I can't believe they wouldn't have told him she used lightsabers and the Force. If he did find out about her, I find it very hard to believe he wouldn't do everything he could to track her down.
And from Ahsoka's side I find it hard to believe that the fact that a Rebel pilot named Skywalker destroyed the Death Star wouldn't have reached her, and I would expect the moment she heard that name she would have gone to find him.
