What would've become of this brave Hologram? There's a sense of pathos in the last reference to him. That 700 years after Voyager would have made it back, The Doctor, still in the Delta Quadrant, alone, heading for home. Trying to pick up the trail of what would be Voyager's history.
The 'Living Witness' EMH
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Depends greatly on just how far the influence of the United Federation of Planets has spread in that direction since Voyager got home.
Since the locals didn't know anything about the Federation other than their contact with Voyager and the Doctor, it can be assumed that the Federation has not expanded out that far, or for other reasons has not decided to reestablish contact with that region of space to the point the local space faring races haven't heard from them since.
Since the locals didn't know anything about the Federation other than their contact with Voyager and the Doctor, it can be assumed that the Federation has not expanded out that far, or for other reasons has not decided to reestablish contact with that region of space to the point the local space faring races haven't heard from them since.
It made for an interesting reflection of how Voyager by its mere presence was destined to affect those it encountered. Seven hundred years on. Yet because she was passing through what trail would The Doctor find. Did he find others who thought of Voayger as a warship, she had a bad reputation when she was actually there.
This episode surely is the furthest or one of the furthest into the future the whole franchise went. One would hope the Federation ventured back to that area of the Delta quadrant. Waste if they didn't.
This episode surely is the furthest or one of the furthest into the future the whole franchise went. One would hope the Federation ventured back to that area of the Delta quadrant. Waste if they didn't.
The federation has gotten into time travel by this point and I doubt would be concerned with correcting the history of a less-advanced species.
Dr. Backup EMH went back in time and rescued the liquid duplicate Voyager and it's crew and hung out with them in the 32nd century (or whenever).
A part of me always interpreted Living Witness original falling through into the MU-with the doctor's Mobile emitter being lost and falling through universes and ending up in the MU where the take on evil voyager was accurate but he "correcting" it to be false for the sake of eventual peace.
The mobile emitter thing I'm fuzzy on. Like when the EMH is switched off does the emitter stay on his desk or something? The Living Witness doctor didn't have the emitter but must have had holographic something or other on his shuttle when he set off for home. Of course he was 700 years into the future, and a couple past past Earth emitter 29th Century technology. How Kyrian/Vaskan technology fits is hard to gauge, but clearly they were capable of holographic simulations.
I agree the whole episode has a different feel about it. Probably because it involves a lot of reflection. You get the sense of looking back at ghosts. Yet there is a crazy humor in it as well with the Warship Voyager recreations. Not so funny really for The Doctor wanting to protect his friends, being separated from them and not even actually being missed because the running Doctor just carried on.
The Doctor being a hologram had that 'belonging' and 'not belonging' duality. Like in Timeless, he could be reactivated when everyone had perished, and Blink of an Eye, he could be unaffected by time. Even Endgame you know he would live past his friends. In Living Witness, he came through. Brought peace to the factions and saved Voyager's reputation. Yet I get how he wanted to move on even after years with the Kyrians and Vaskans. He had become an explorer and still had that end goal to get home to strive for. I liked how it was a one episode story too, it did what it had to without messing with the momentum.
The Doctor being a hologram had that 'belonging' and 'not belonging' duality. Like in Timeless, he could be reactivated when everyone had perished, and Blink of an Eye, he could be unaffected by time. Even Endgame you know he would live past his friends. In Living Witness, he came through. Brought peace to the factions and saved Voyager's reputation. Yet I get how he wanted to move on even after years with the Kyrians and Vaskans. He had become an explorer and still had that end goal to get home to strive for. I liked how it was a one episode story too, it did what it had to without messing with the momentum.
Yeah he and Data both-they have friendships and relationships with the "organics" but will far outlive them. They can see things both from an inside and yet outsiders perspective.
I thought this to be one of the show's best. It was a wonderful idea to do with a character that essentially a computer program. The idea that a copy can be made and the copy itself is self aware and is reactivated in the distant future, unaware he's a copy. And the story illustrates how inaccurate historical reconstruction of events can be inaccurate.
Yeah Living Witness I'd definitely say is one of Voyager's all time best.
Just a side comment.. but it's interesting that in creating bad Chakotay he was depicted with a half face tattoo. Like the Kyians somehow drew upon actual sources of human culture and mythology. I don't want to say the Maori tribes were a war race but warfare and full face moko (tattoos) shows power and rank, yet I would suggest Chakotay's regular tattoo is more Indian spiritual in its origins. Bad Chakotay played upon an earthly reference of warfare. Even Bad Tuvoks slightly curled up evil ears looked like a human depiction of devil ears to me.
The Kyrians knew their propaganda! Like Neelix in actual uniform, Harry promoted, Seven, full Borg. Not sure about B'Ellana but it was amusing that to evil up Janeway they went for a short hair style, made her look more masculine perhaps.. not that she did. There's a fine line between satire and propaganda and a huge line between both those and actual history.
The Kyrians knew their propaganda! Like Neelix in actual uniform, Harry promoted, Seven, full Borg. Not sure about B'Ellana but it was amusing that to evil up Janeway they went for a short hair style, made her look more masculine perhaps.. not that she did. There's a fine line between satire and propaganda and a huge line between both those and actual history.
A part of me has this fan theory where the Living Witness "events" actually occurred but in a MU permutation in which a Terran Empire warship was thrust into the DQ.
That would be a trip in every sense. Imagine? A hologram in an artificial body. My tiny mind is trying to reconcile this, lol.
It would be so cool and a real challenge for the writers to show this EMH arrive on earth 30 something Century. I am beginning to wonder though if the writers have 'it' anymore though. They can't seem to get out of the TOS rut they're in.
It would be so cool and a real challenge for the writers to show this EMH arrive on earth 30 something Century. I am beginning to wonder though if the writers have 'it' anymore though. They can't seem to get out of the TOS rut they're in.
Well, the only reason he would need a body at all is for interacting with the physical world, and even in then, he wouldn't strictly need it in most cases.
He could simply be uploaded into the shuttle's computer system, and navigate from there. Or have holographic systems installed in the shuttle. And of course, he would carry with him the knowledge to construct a body might he need it at some point in the future.
He could simply be uploaded into the shuttle's computer system, and navigate from there. Or have holographic systems installed in the shuttle. And of course, he would carry with him the knowledge to construct a body might he need it at some point in the future.
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