The Librarians--Season Four
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It was clearly love at first sight.
Well, that was an enjoyable episode with a lot of good moments, and it raises a few questions.
First, we learned that being an immortal made Jenkins immune to many of the things that normal humans have to deal with, like sickness and eating and sleeping. I wonder what other struggles he will face, and how it will play out at the end of the season?
Then the Library basically sent the group on a team-building exercise, which seems to disprove Darington Dare's assertion that there should only be one Librarian at a time (an assertion that was pretty unfounded to begin with). Watching the Librarians suffer through team-building exercises was pretty funny, and seeing Cassandra learn that real life is not like a band camp movie was kind of touching. And Eve had to finally admit that Flynn has treated her pretty shabbily. I wonder what she'll do upon her inevitable return.
And we also got the return of DOSA after a long while. The DOSA agent was pretty amusing, though he and his team seemed superfluous to the plot until the end when he was there to guarantee Area 51 status for the Magic Forest.
And the main plot about the Magic Forest was really nice. The trees have been trying to find a way to bridge the communication gap for centuries, and finally Stone was the man to do it. The effect of Stone being merged with the tree was pretty sweet, and it was a nice moment when he proved his identity to Eve by telling her that she did nothing wrong and had nothing to prove. The Library is now in possession of the magic acorn, or whatever it was, and the forest is protected. It was kind of a nice twist that there was no real villain-- just a bunch of trees trying to communicate and a scared camp director trying to cover things up.
I have to wonder about all the people that the trees spit out, though. Some of them were from hundreds of years ago. Were they in suspended animation all this time, or awake and aware and being slowly driven mad by being locked up? Or did being in some kind of symbiosis with the trees keep them sane as well as young? Did the trees somehow keep them conscious of the outside world, or will they experience culture shock? Where will they go? What will they do? How will they make a living? Will any of these questions be addressed or will the show just forget about them?
And speaking of covering things up, Stone's reporter girl friend was a pretty interesting character. She not only learned about the Library, but tracked down DOSA and is able to intercept their communications. Given Stone's remarks at the start of the episode about falling in love and having a normal life, I was expecting him to tell her about the Library and offer her a job. Unfortunately, I was only half right. He told her about the Library, but also that she must keep it secret. What happens now? Will she ultimately return as an ally and love interest? Or will she give in to the temptation to restore her own reputation by revealing the truth?
Well, that was an enjoyable episode with a lot of good moments, and it raises a few questions.
First, we learned that being an immortal made Jenkins immune to many of the things that normal humans have to deal with, like sickness and eating and sleeping. I wonder what other struggles he will face, and how it will play out at the end of the season?
Then the Library basically sent the group on a team-building exercise, which seems to disprove Darington Dare's assertion that there should only be one Librarian at a time (an assertion that was pretty unfounded to begin with). Watching the Librarians suffer through team-building exercises was pretty funny, and seeing Cassandra learn that real life is not like a band camp movie was kind of touching. And Eve had to finally admit that Flynn has treated her pretty shabbily. I wonder what she'll do upon her inevitable return.
And we also got the return of DOSA after a long while. The DOSA agent was pretty amusing, though he and his team seemed superfluous to the plot until the end when he was there to guarantee Area 51 status for the Magic Forest.
And the main plot about the Magic Forest was really nice. The trees have been trying to find a way to bridge the communication gap for centuries, and finally Stone was the man to do it. The effect of Stone being merged with the tree was pretty sweet, and it was a nice moment when he proved his identity to Eve by telling her that she did nothing wrong and had nothing to prove. The Library is now in possession of the magic acorn, or whatever it was, and the forest is protected. It was kind of a nice twist that there was no real villain-- just a bunch of trees trying to communicate and a scared camp director trying to cover things up.
I have to wonder about all the people that the trees spit out, though. Some of them were from hundreds of years ago. Were they in suspended animation all this time, or awake and aware and being slowly driven mad by being locked up? Or did being in some kind of symbiosis with the trees keep them sane as well as young? Did the trees somehow keep them conscious of the outside world, or will they experience culture shock? Where will they go? What will they do? How will they make a living? Will any of these questions be addressed or will the show just forget about them?
And speaking of covering things up, Stone's reporter girl friend was a pretty interesting character. She not only learned about the Library, but tracked down DOSA and is able to intercept their communications. Given Stone's remarks at the start of the episode about falling in love and having a normal life, I was expecting him to tell her about the Library and offer her a job. Unfortunately, I was only half right. He told her about the Library, but also that she must keep it secret. What happens now? Will she ultimately return as an ally and love interest? Or will she give in to the temptation to restore her own reputation by revealing the truth?
It looked like people from as far back as the 16th century, at least one who looked like a conquistador, were released none the worse for wear. They can't just join present day society unless they were able to observe through the years and it won't be such a culture shock. After all, this is a fantasy show.
Of all people to tell about the Library, a reporter has to be about the worst if you want the secret kept. That's probably why they introduced the attraction between her and Stone, so that she would have a reason to keep the secret even at the cost of her reputation.
Of all people to tell about the Library, a reporter has to be about the worst if you want the secret kept. That's probably why they introduced the attraction between her and Stone, so that she would have a reason to keep the secret even at the cost of her reputation.
Well, that was quite a good episode. It was interesting that there was no real bad guy in this story-- and no real threat. The haunting was triggered by the historian, who just wanted to save the town from economic ruin, and the ghosts of the brothers really gotten over their own conflict before they even died. No deaths or injuries resulted from the event at all. But it was a nice little parable about conflict that paralleled the competition between Jones and Stone, using the bloodiest conflict in American history as a metaphor-- a conflict that the contemporary Culture War seems intent on reviving.
I liked Eve's reaction to the reenactment: "I hope nobody ever does this with a battle that I was in." Also, Stone's reaction to the red line and Jones's bonding with the ghost of the child were nice touches.
Meanwhile, back at the Library, Jenkins continues to adjust to human life. At first, I thought that high tea with Cassandra was all about Cassandra putting the moves on him again, but instead they tracked down more information about the twin Librarians who caused the Dark Age. Apparently this was all caused by them putting their self interest above the interests of the Library (another metaphor for our times), which convinced Jenkins and Cassandra that there should only be one Librarian. I still don't find this plot thread convincing-- why would multiple Librarians be more likely to put their self interest above the Library? If anything, they would be more likely to keep each other in check.
I liked Eve's reaction to the reenactment: "I hope nobody ever does this with a battle that I was in." Also, Stone's reaction to the red line and Jones's bonding with the ghost of the child were nice touches.
Meanwhile, back at the Library, Jenkins continues to adjust to human life. At first, I thought that high tea with Cassandra was all about Cassandra putting the moves on him again, but instead they tracked down more information about the twin Librarians who caused the Dark Age. Apparently this was all caused by them putting their self interest above the interests of the Library (another metaphor for our times), which convinced Jenkins and Cassandra that there should only be one Librarian. I still don't find this plot thread convincing-- why would multiple Librarians be more likely to put their self interest above the Library? If anything, they would be more likely to keep each other in check.
I finally got caught up and these last few episodes have been good.
I don't mind the conflict over there being multiple Librarians, I think it makes sense that something like this would happen since it's a pretty unusual situation. Everybody switching sides of the argument at the same time at the end of this weeks was pretty good.
I'm loving the stuff with Jenkins adjusting to being mortal again, it's been a lot of fun.
I don't mind the conflict over there being multiple Librarians, I think it makes sense that something like this would happen since it's a pretty unusual situation. Everybody switching sides of the argument at the same time at the end of this weeks was pretty good.
I'm loving the stuff with Jenkins adjusting to being mortal again, it's been a lot of fun.
Very cool.
Here's the description:
(The Librarians) And Some Dude Named Jeff
When Jenkins body-switches with a 28-year-old slacker named Jeff, he must find his way back to the Library to correct the mistake. But he will need a team to do it, so he enlists the help of Jeff's hapless Dungeons & Dragons friends.
Here's the description:
(The Librarians) And Some Dude Named Jeff
When Jenkins body-switches with a 28-year-old slacker named Jeff, he must find his way back to the Library to correct the mistake. But he will need a team to do it, so he enlists the help of Jeff's hapless Dungeons & Dragons friends.
Gallahad is Lancelott's bastard son?
Lancelot from season one, Max fricking Headroom, was Jenkin's daddy!!!?????
Lancelot from season one, Max fricking Headroom, was Jenkin's daddy!!!?????
That's two episodes so far this season that have focused mainly on one cast member with the rest having small roles. I imagine they were probably filmed overlapping with episodes that featured the other cast more, so as to save production time, like the "Doctor-light" and "companion-light" episodes Doctor Who sometimes films simultaneously.
I knew I'd seen the actor who played Jeff before, and it turns out he was the anti-zombie fanatic leader in iZombie last season. I didn't recognize him with his hair grown longer.
I'm impressed they actually got permission to use Dungeons and Dragons instead of having to make up some fake equivalent. It's a pretty huge coincidence, though, that the Library's traps to keep people out just happened to be perfectly tailored to the gamers' respective skills, as if it actually wanted to let them in -- although maybe it did? But then, why bother with the traps?
Was that reporter they mentioned who published and retracted an expose of the Library the same woman that was Stone's sort-of romantic interest in the sentient-forest episode?
I knew I'd seen the actor who played Jeff before, and it turns out he was the anti-zombie fanatic leader in iZombie last season. I didn't recognize him with his hair grown longer.
I'm impressed they actually got permission to use Dungeons and Dragons instead of having to make up some fake equivalent. It's a pretty huge coincidence, though, that the Library's traps to keep people out just happened to be perfectly tailored to the gamers' respective skills, as if it actually wanted to let them in -- although maybe it did? But then, why bother with the traps?
Was that reporter they mentioned who published and retracted an expose of the Library the same woman that was Stone's sort-of romantic interest in the sentient-forest episode?
This was a great episode for Jenkins. I loved him pointing out all of the inaccuracies in the D&D game.
I was a bit disappointed Jenkins didn't let Jeff's friends into The Library. I thought after everything they went through they deserved to at least get a peek inside.
I hope we see them again, they were pretty fun.
I was a bit disappointed Jenkins didn't let Jeff's friends into The Library. I thought after everything they went through they deserved to at least get a peek inside.
I hope we see them again, they were pretty fun.
That's what I assumed.
And DOSA's files made it onto Wikileaks? Interesting!
(Just turned int the hopefully final revisions to Book 3, btw.)
Actually I don't think it was the same reporter. Dilshad Vadsaria's character in the forest episode was named Sarina, and the reporter name mentioned here was something along the lines of "Lindsay Spaungle" (???).
Well, that was pretty amusing. Not only did we get to see Jenkins on a solo adventure, but it addressed his new humanity and he met some unlikely new friends. And he had a bit of character development as he realized how "delightful" people can be if given the chance.
The booby-trapped secret entrance to the library was a bit contrived to cater to the D&D players, but that's okay. The best part was in the white room (minus any black curtains) where Jenkins gave in to hopelessness and the Bunny Guy pushed him to persevere. Being an immortal who had mostly kept inside the Library for centuries didn't give him much opportunity to exercise resilience, so the combination of losing his immortality and then his body pretty much kicked the props out from under him. It was interesting to see him bond with these gamers as a fellow outcast and to learn coping skills from them. I was surprised to see him continuing to socialize with them, and I wonder if we'll see more about this in the remaining episodes.
There were a couple of things that I thought were a little odd-- namely, it took the Librarians way too long to confront Not Jenkins and Asmodeus didn't seem all that impressive for a Prince of Hell-- but no big deal.
The booby-trapped secret entrance to the library was a bit contrived to cater to the D&D players, but that's okay. The best part was in the white room (minus any black curtains) where Jenkins gave in to hopelessness and the Bunny Guy pushed him to persevere. Being an immortal who had mostly kept inside the Library for centuries didn't give him much opportunity to exercise resilience, so the combination of losing his immortality and then his body pretty much kicked the props out from under him. It was interesting to see him bond with these gamers as a fellow outcast and to learn coping skills from them. I was surprised to see him continuing to socialize with them, and I wonder if we'll see more about this in the remaining episodes.
There were a couple of things that I thought were a little odd-- namely, it took the Librarians way too long to confront Not Jenkins and Asmodeus didn't seem all that impressive for a Prince of Hell-- but no big deal.
Maybe Hell had budget cuts.
I think the idea was that, at first, the Librarians chalked Jenkins's odd behavior up to the fact that he was still coping with his new mortality, but they caught on pretty quickly.
"So, Jenkins seem a little 'off' to you?"
"Yeah, but, you know, he's been through a lot lately . . .."
Yeah, I got that, but he was way off. 
Yeah, I got that, but he was way off.
Yeah, Fake-Jenkins flirting with Cassandra was pretty cringe worthy IMO.
New episode tonight:
(The Librarians) And the Trial of One
It's time to choose the Librarian to tether with Baird, but no one can decide so the Library takes it upon itself to help. Reducing the Librarians to their most primal selves and abandoning them in a landscape of their own nightmares, it's The Trial of The One.
(The Librarians) And the Trial of One
It's time to choose the Librarian to tether with Baird, but no one can decide so the Library takes it upon itself to help. Reducing the Librarians to their most primal selves and abandoning them in a landscape of their own nightmares, it's The Trial of The One.
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