The least disliked episode of TNG - final part
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It's a shame it was never explored properly in a future Q appearance, though I couldn't help but love Guinan shoving a fork in Q's hand in Deja Q.
Yesterday's Enterprise vs. All Good Things... it is then. There are aspects of both that I love; both episodes are close to my heart.
I'll vote to save All Good Things... It was the episode that helped to get me into the franchise properly in the first place, airing nicely in 1996 with the BBC being to years behind Sky. I only started with season 7, but this AGT was awesome, and had me coming back for the repeats, starting with season one the week after. It also coincided with the 30th Anniversary, the buzz of which really got me excited about Star Trek on the whole.
It is the perfect finale for the show, and my favourite in all of Star Trek.
Yesterday's Enterprise - 1
All Good Things... - 0
I hoped "The Measure of a Man," "Q Who" or "The Best of Both Worlds" would win; oh well.
A narrow pick of "Yesterday's Enterprise" because Tasha learning about her other death and feeling she is *supposed* to be dead is a little awkward and, aside from Picard and Riker, the Enterprise-D crew isn't quite different enough from their usual selves.
Yesterday's Enterprise - 3
All Good Things... - 0
A narrow pick of "Yesterday's Enterprise" because Tasha learning about her other death and feeling she is *supposed* to be dead is a little awkward and, aside from Picard and Riker, the Enterprise-D crew isn't quite different enough from their usual selves.
Yesterday's Enterprise - 3
All Good Things... - 0
My point goes to Yesterday's Enterprise, to me it was really boring to me.
All Good Things... is the winner.
All Good Things... is the winner.
So....let me get this straight. You're voting for AGT as the worst episode because the movie Generations was bad and you didn't like the music in a bunch of other episodes. Sounds reasonable.
I wasn't going to write a dissertation in a junk post that only serves to move the count along, so I was just going to keep it basic.
But if you want more information, I dislike yet another episode revolving around a space/time distortion, a reset button, and a ridiculous plot. And when I bring up Generations, it's because the writers scrambled to finish both scripts at around the same time, and coincidentally Generations also features ... a space/time distortion, a reset button (of sorts) and a ridiculous plot. Had Generations not been in the pipeline, I'm sure Moore/Braga would have come up with something better to cap off TNG.
We're supposed to believe that Q put Picard through the whole jumping-through-time thing as an honorable gesture to prevent him from destroying humanity, but it was the act of sending Picard through time that created the problem in the first place. Old-age Picard wouldn't have even been out in space to create the distortion without Q's meddling. So the entire episode makes no sense, and at the end of the day, the dilemma is manufactured and fake. Also, showing up in the future to see no distortion only to come back later on and then see it later on is one of the dumbest plot holes in TNG. Again, probably a rushed script.
Q Who and Yesterday's Enterprise are better IMO, as they have much more straight-forward stories that utilize science fiction to tell solid, dramatic stories better than I feel All Good Things did, hence a vote for All Good Things.
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So....let me get this straight. You're voting for AGT as the worst episode because the movie Generations was bad and you didn't like the music in a bunch of other episodes. Sounds reasonable.
I wasn't going to write a dissertation in a junk post that only serves to move the count along, so I was just going to keep it basic.
But if you want more information, I dislike yet another episode revolving around a space/time distortion, a reset button, and a ridiculous plot. And when I bring up Generations, it's because the writers scrambled to finish both scripts at around the same time, and coincidentally Generations also features ... a space/time distortion, a reset button (of sorts) and a ridiculous plot. Had Generations not been in the pipeline, I'm sure Moore/Braga would have come up with something better to cap off TNG.
We're supposed to believe that Q put Picard through the whole jumping-through-time thing as an honorable gesture to prevent him from destroying humanity, but it was the act of sending Picard through time that created the problem in the first place. Old-age Picard wouldn't have even been out in space to create the distortion without Q's meddling. So the entire episode makes no sense, and at the end of the day, the dilemma is manufactured and fake. Also, showing up in the future to see no distortion only to come back later on and then see it later on is one of the dumbest plot holes in TNG. Again, probably a rushed script.
Q Who and Yesterday's Enterprise are better IMO, as they have much more straight-forward stories that utilize science fiction to tell solid, dramatic stories better than I feel All Good Things did, hence a vote for All Good Things.
All good points, but The Continuum forced Q to put Picard in the situation of ending humanity. Having Picard time travel to figure it all out was Q's idea.
Not a very good quality video
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A worthy winner! 
What do you think Q meant?
Picard: What is it that you're trying to tell me?
Q: (almost whispers to Picard's ear, but, no) ...you'll find out...
WHAT WHAT? Tell Me!
Any ideas?
Picard: What is it that you're trying to tell me?
Q: (almost whispers to Picard's ear, but, no) ...you'll find out...
WHAT WHAT? Tell Me!
Any ideas?
You're absolutely right about that stupid plot hole. I hate that no one caught that (or cared). Still, it's not as bad as Voyager's Relativity. That episode is one big timetravel plothole.
I agree, Yesterday's Enterprise a better episode than AGT. But I have no problem with AGT winning.
I quite like Relativity. None of it made any sense, yet I never thought it was supposed to.
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