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The Last Jedi - Actually Widely Hated?

yes because in novels they aren't doing it to make millions on merchandising and box office bucks
It's highly amusing to think that Star Wars wasn't ever made to make money. Dare I say that is quite a naive point of view on the nature of a franchise like SW.

Or do people truly believe the books were being sold out of the goodness of LFL's heart?
 
books ever only mak a fraction of what the films do
It wasn't just books, and that is fairly common knowledge. More importantly, Star Wars was always made with a profit motive. This is neither new because of Disney and isn't offensive for a company to make money off of its property. Lucas did it, Roddenberry did it, Disney does it, and on and on.

Again, extremely naive to think Lucas didn't make SW to make money. And villainizing Disney for doing so is the height of absurd argumentation.
 
How dare they? :shrug:
yes everyone wants to make a profit.. even George did. But he could have made American Graffiti 2 (which did get made eventually) but instead he wanted to tell a story for a generation growing up without fairy tales, so profit wasn't THE reason he made SW. He wanted to tell the hero's journey.. that was the story.
The sequels are made just to capitalize on the brand and sell tickets
 
That begins with "The Star Wars Holiday Special" and The Empire Strikes Back.
you would not say that about Empire if you saw Empire of Dreams. Yeah sure they knew they had a successful product but Kirsh refused to direct it because of what the story meant, and when he did agree to do it, he wanted it to rise to the occassion.
 
you would not say that about Empire if you saw Empire of Dreams. Yeah sure they knew they had a successful product but Kirsh refused to direct it because of what the story meant, and when he did agree to do it, he wanted it to rise to the occassion.

Nobody funds Empire... if Star Wars was a minor hit, or a flop. It only exists because of the popularity of the preceding movie.
 
you would not say that about Empire if you saw Empire of Dreams. Yeah sure they knew they had a successful product but Kirsh refused to direct it because of what the story meant, and when he did agree to do it, he wanted it to rise to the occassion.
And Abrams wanted to make a Star Wars story because of the impact it had on him.

Saying it's only profit motivated ignores the artistic work of those involved.
 
Lucas funded it himself

I seem to recall from Galaxy of Dreams (which I watched again not too long ago) that because of Kersh's overspending, the bank pulled the loan. Lucas had to go back to Fox to help secure the loan. He lost a percentage of the profits back to the studio because of it. Guess Lucas should have been fired because of it. ;)

Source: Star Wars: Galaxy of Dreams and Film Buff Online
 
Guess Lucas should have been fired because of it. ;)
He also should have been fired for ruining SW with The Phantom Menace! All that terrible CGI and stupid innane characters no one likes!

I'm half joking, but at the same time, having been on internet boards during the PT era the level of vitriol directed at the ST is highly amusing if it were not so repetitive.
 
He also should have been fired for ruining SW with The Phantom Menace! All that terrible CGI and stupid innane characters no one likes!

I'm half joking, but at the same time, having been on internet boards during the PT era the level of vitriol directed at the ST is highly amusing if it were not so repetitive.

Yes, because apparently those fans had their childhoods “raped” by the prequels. A terrible phrase beginning a terrible period of entitled fandom.
 
Lucas lost part of the profits of the film, but secured the merchandising profits....and he capitalized on that.
 
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