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The Killing (AMC) Discussion

That's the season finale?

I would have been come back if they had solved the case this season and the next one was something else. Even another case would have been fine. But dragging it out for another season?

Yeah, not gonna bother.
 
I enjoyed the season. I don't think I'm a fan of dragging the same plot into season 2 though. The case of the week typical cop show is unwatchable to me, so I guess I preferred the pacing here. The only real stinker was the Jack's with his dad episode.

I started watching them on Friday, which probably helps for a show like this.
 
Just finished watchin' it on the DVR...and, yeah, I'm done...I won't be watchin' next season.

Every promo when the show started was "who killed Rosie Larsen?"

The show finishes, and they didn't answer the question?

Screw them for not even givin' us the gun shot sound effect at the end.
 
I feel like I've been hoodwinked and bamboozled with that ending. All a ploy just to get us to watch season 2. Well I say, FEH! To Hell with them!
 
Every promo when the show started was "who killed Rosie Larsen?"
The show finishes, and they didn't answer the question?

Well, that's not true.

I really don't get why people all over the net is so frustreted and angry over this. It can't be the first time you ever seen a cliffhanger?
 
Absolutely nothin' has been resolved from the series premiere, and last night's episode was just all around bad.

I've seen cliffhangers before. And I've seen crap before. So I know how to tell the difference. Last night's finale was crap.
 
Now I wish I'd stuck with this show, just to see this T E R R I B L E finale that has all the internets up in arms! :eek:

Here's an interesting piece on the fallout and what it means for AMC: http://cultural-learnings.com/2011/...-how-the-killing-threatens-the-future-of-amc/

Oh cmon, one bad episode of one show won't kill AMC! Not as long as they got The Walking Dead. And Hell on Wheels looks good for the upcoming season too!

Renewing The Walking Dead was an easy decision, and a smart one from a business perspective, but it created a clear schism within the network’s brand.

I've been thinking AMC's brand is "quality regardless of genre." They have a great 20th C period drama, a great crime show, a great sci fi show and if they play their cards right, a great 19th C period drama. They could keep going with that. How about a great medical show, taking an original tack on a well worn genre? How about a great space opera sci fi series? Great fantasy series (of the elves & dragons, sword & sorcery or fairy tale type)? Great horror drama (psychological thriller or supernatural type)?

If Hell on Wheels (which looks a lot more promising to me than The Killing ever did) is a critical and ratings dud, then maybe AMC should worry a bit. But the jury is way out on that as of yet.
 
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Every promo when the show started was "who killed Rosie Larsen?"
The show finishes, and they didn't answer the question?

Well, that's not true.

I really don't get why people all over the net is so frustreted and angry over this. It can't be the first time you ever seen a cliffhanger?

Yes. I've seen a cliffhanger. And this wasn't a good one.

This is what's going to happen--because we've been down this road enough time on other serialized shows revolving around a central mystery: they are going to extend it and extend it to absurd proportions, because TV is about staying on the air, and when they FINALLY reveal who did it, no one, NO ONE, will be satisfied.

Think about Twin Peaks... SPIRIT BOB...
Think about Lost... PURGATORY?!

I appreciated that they want to deal with other aspects of a murder-that was great, BUT...

You know two things are going to come of that cliff hanger, either Billy is shot or not. He's not going to be killed and we ALREADY KNOW he didn't do it.

I'm done. I'm really seriously done. And it's not ONLY because they didn't reveal who did it, but, I know NOW, that this show is going to revolve around this ONE mystery and I don't think it works on TV for any length of time, it will fall apart under the weight of it's hours of TV time.
 
That's not a cliffhanger. that's a travesty.

No, it was a cliffhanger. Governor Walker's budget is a travesty. 16 hours later I'm home from work and I still can't fathom what the big deal is. So they went another direction.

So what?

What is the big freaking deal? I've had some problems with a few plot points, but the finale was absolutely not one of the problems. People are too excitable over a show they claim not to care about. I reiterate--they decided to go in another direction. So what?
 
Now I wish I'd stuck with this show, just to see this T E R R I B L E finale that has all the internets up in arms! :eek:

Here's an interesting piece on the fallout and what it means for AMC: http://cultural-learnings.com/2011/...-how-the-killing-threatens-the-future-of-amc/

Oh cmon, one bad episode of one show won't kill AMC! Not as long as they got The Walking Dead. And Hell on Wheels looks good for the upcoming season too!

The Walking Dead is not viewed as a great show on the level of Breaking Bad or Mad Men.
 
It's because the show was completely empty and vapid. All we've learned is her dad was a former mobster and that a few people weren't the killer. Not that this means anything since any of those could be red herrings themselves.

Nothing was really learned. Hell, unlike Lost they didn't even give us any really interesting characters; just a bunch of emos at best. I sure as hell don't care about the lead whatsoever.

The only thing the show had going for it was the unspoken promise of a resolution to the case this season. That's it. No one was watching it because the characters were fun to watch. They were watching it for the case which, in virtually any other story, would and could have been solved after a couple of episodes. And worse, they've now made it abundantly clear that they're just going to drag it out for at least one more season even though they've already exhausted most of the possible suspects. Which means if it's not the annoying prat of a campaign strategist or one of the sister-in-law, it's going to be someone they pull out of their ass at the last minute. Which makes this season even more pointless than it is.

Or in other words, people are angry because they've had their time well and truly wasted above and beyond just watching a show.
 
Now I wish I'd stuck with this show, just to see this T E R R I B L E finale that has all the internets up in arms! :eek:

Here's an interesting piece on the fallout and what it means for AMC: http://cultural-learnings.com/2011/...-how-the-killing-threatens-the-future-of-amc/

Oh cmon, one bad episode of one show won't kill AMC! Not as long as they got The Walking Dead. And Hell on Wheels looks good for the upcoming season too!

The Walking Dead is not viewed as a great show on the level of Breaking Bad or Mad Men.

It is by the only critic who counts to me - namely me. And I've bailed on Mad Men, too damn boring.

But that inspired me to poke around and see how various shows on today are regarded. Since the Emmys are coming up, I googled "Emmy Contenders" and found this article on the threat AMC poses to HBO in the Emmys. Check out the illustration*. :rommie: The Hollywood Reporter, as mainstream an industry rag as you can hope to find, seems to think the zombie show is well regarded enough to strike fear into the heart of competing networks.

Now AMC is delivering that nightmare to just about everyone -- a trend that started in 2008 with the debut of three-time drama winner Mad Men.

"Mad Men came in under the radar," says former Sopranos executive producer Terence Winter, whose current HBO epic Boardwalk Empire is considered a front-runner for this year's drama Emmy. "It was on a network no one had ever heard of, aside from movies."

Then came AMC's Breaking Bad -- a gritty critical favorite and two-time nominee with a three-year lock on drama actor in Bryan Cranston -- though a production delay makes him and the series ineligible for the 2011 race.

And now, says Dan Weiss, co-creator of HBO's other Emmy hopeful, Game of Thrones, "The zombies are creeping up!"

He's referring, of course, to creator Frank Darabont's The Walking Dead, AMC's latest Emmy party-crasher, which debuted in the fall with 5.3 million viewers, making it the network's biggest hit yet.

And most recent to join the canon is AMC's Twin Peaks-like Killing, which stands to get a boost by its nomination for best drama by the Broadcast Television Journalists Association in its first-ever Critics' Choice awards ceremony June 20, four days before Emmy voting closes (see sidebar, p. 74).
So maybe The Killing is off the menu - this close to the close of voting, a bad episode might just sink it - but AMC's other three big successful shows are still contenders.

*Aaah, I bet Tyrion could make mincemeat of any zombie horde. :p
 
I still can't fathom what the big deal is. So they went another direction.

So what?

It's because of this...

The only thing the show had going for it was the unspoken promise of a resolution to the case this season. That's it. No one was watching it because the characters were fun to watch. They were watching it for the case....

I would argue it wasn't an unspoken promise. Every billboard in LA asked "Who Killed Rose Larson?" So, yeah, I kinda want to see that.

They went in another direction... fine... it's one I'm not going to invest my time in, it's one that, from a LOT of previous history, won't be worthwhile...

Dorian, I'm glad you liked it. And that's fine. But, the big deal is some people invested time--personally, I knew I wasn't going to come back, but I wanted to know who did it--and now that time was wasted.

If I had know I wouldn't have gotten the solution to the crime, I wouldn't have continued.

That might be why there is some ill will.
 
Eventually they'll reveal the killer. It's not wasted time. Maybe I have too much serious shit and drama in my real life at present to get worked up over this.
 
Here's a review that contends the series was never meant to be a procedural, so you can't judge it on that score.

Just curious, did the Danish version of this show pull the same stunt at the end of S1 (or was it more than one season?)
 
Eventually they'll reveal the killer. It's not wasted time. Maybe I have too much serious shit and drama in my real life at present to get worked up over this.

I'm sure they will. It's like they eventually had to reveal what was going on in Lost.

And for me it WAS wasted time, because I stopped watching for the characters--which is why I started actually, but then, they began to be monotonous. So, if not them, that leaves me with the plot, the hook, who Killed Rosie?

But, now, I really don't care. So, the show has failed for me. I don't care about the victim. I don't care about the detectives.

I'm glad that you like it. And you like the new direction. But, it's very disappointing.

Here's a review that contends the series was never meant to be a procedural, so you can't judge it on that score.

Just curious, did the Danish version of this show pull the same stunt at the end of S1 (or was it more than one season?)

From what I understand, the murder was solved in the first season.

Edited to add: you know next the Producer is going to come out and say, "We have a plan. We know who did it. Don't worry."
 
Yeah I was watching the show to figure out who the killer was and that's the ending?

I would have been OK with a larger government cover up even or something but it was just... bleh.

Who killed Rosie? Who the fuck knows, the writers don't seem to have a clue.

Veronica Mars worked with more than one mystery, The Killing could have found a way to continue and not drag us through the mud.

There isn't a single person I care about, I was watching for the "Who did it?" angle and they didn't give us anything.

What a joke. I'm not waiting for a year to see who killed her.
 
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