I do admit I wonder if any of the Kardashians have ever heard of DS9 and how the name Cardassian is so similar to theirs. 
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Fully intended to purchase Rough Beasts of Empire at 2 different bookstores today... and both stores said the same thing, "It's out, but we don't have a copy. We could order one for you." I figured they were sold out, but apparently they hadn't had any on order.
Apparently the Borders, Barnes & Noble in my area have stopped ordering new Star Trek books unless asked to in advance.
I miss the Wal-Mart I frequented in College, they had a kick-ass sci-fi book section and always had the new Trek books early and at a discount.
I decided to skip Seize The Fire, but I really wanted to read RBoE tonight, because of the Spoiler I read in another thread regarding the leadership of a major power.
And now the taunting!
It never ends.
Maybe next week.
Apparently the Borders, Barnes & Noble in my area have stopped ordering new Star Trek books unless asked to in advance.
I miss the Wal-Mart I frequented in College, they had a kick-ass sci-fi book section and always had the new Trek books early and at a discount.
I decided to skip Seize The Fire, but I really wanted to read RBoE tonight, because of the Spoiler I read in another thread regarding the leadership of a major power.
And now the taunting!
It never ends.Maybe next week.
Fully intended to purchase Rough Beasts of Empire at 2 different bookstores today... and both stores said the same thing, "It's out, but we don't have a copy. We could order one for you." I figured they were sold out, but apparently they hadn't had any on order.
Apparently the Borders, Barnes & Noble in my area have stopped ordering new Star Trek books unless asked to in advance.
You too huh? All three Borders in the Omaha area don't have Rough Beasts of Empire. I'm told that I can order a copy, or wait a few weeks for their stock copies to come in.
Um... I choose "No".So, I'm told by the Barnes & Noble website that they have a copy in the two local stores, but neither are close to where I live at all. I'll try to get out there tomorrow.
*sigh* Borders used to be my all-time favorite store...
Actually I'm probably leaning closer to "the bad way" after today's little sojourn of naught. (grumble grumble)
But that's more a result of the way Star Trek's shelf space has been reduced to less than two shelves next to the full case that Star Wars had. (Both stores)
No wonder the trek lit market isn't growing. If I didn't know to ask for something by name, or check on new works of authors I've enjoyed in the past...I'd never see it on the shelf.
But that's more a result of the way Star Trek's shelf space has been reduced to less than two shelves next to the full case that Star Wars had. (Both stores)
No wonder the trek lit market isn't growing. If I didn't know to ask for something by name, or check on new works of authors I've enjoyed in the past...I'd never see it on the shelf.
But is that cause, or the effect of previous books they'd ordered not selling?
Meh, I really couldn't say, but you certainly pose a valid question.
All I know is this:
I started buying trek novels consistently around 2001.
Then when the schedule moved to 2 a month I started buying 2 books a month (fewer at first, but more as I realized how quickly I read them and got into other series)
then when the Schedule dropped to 1 a month I was buying 1 book a month (and any particular specials released)
and now I'm buying whenever something new trickles out after 7 months (due to whatever reason) that's not a reprint.
It's like it's working itself out of my like on it's own, despite my best intentions otherwise.
All I know is this:
I started buying trek novels consistently around 2001.
Then when the schedule moved to 2 a month I started buying 2 books a month (fewer at first, but more as I realized how quickly I read them and got into other series)
then when the Schedule dropped to 1 a month I was buying 1 book a month (and any particular specials released)
and now I'm buying whenever something new trickles out after 7 months (due to whatever reason) that's not a reprint.
It's like it's working itself out of my like on it's own, despite my best intentions otherwise.
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But is that cause, or the effect of previous books they'd ordered not selling?
It's because Trek fans were early adopters of online bookbuying. So many of us get our Trek books over the Internet these days that there's less demand for them in brick-and-mortar bookstores.
^I had a busy year and only recently got caught up on my Trek. I felt bad for getting the books I'd missed on Amazon instead of at the shop as I normally world for exactly that reason, but I figured I would've felt worse carting a half-dozen books up to the counter and having to go to two or three stores because one didn't have everything I wanted.
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But is that cause, or the effect of previous books they'd ordered not selling?
It's because Trek fans were early adopters of online bookbuying. So many of us get our Trek books over the Internet these days that there's less demand for them in brick-and-mortar bookstores.
But if that's the case why wouldn't it also be true of Star Wars? At my local bookstore Trek and Wars have gone from about 50/50 to 80/20 in Star Wars favour. Trek shelf space is shrinking faster than pretty much any other series I can see. Once the new releases are gone very little of the back issue titles are on the shelf. Are Trek fans that much more likely to order online than other SF fans?
But is that cause, or the effect of previous books they'd ordered not selling?
It's because Trek fans were early adopters of online bookbuying. So many of us get our Trek books over the Internet these days that there's less demand for them in brick-and-mortar bookstores.
And Star Wars fans weren't? I'm not saying there's not a difference (I really have no idea), but I too get frustrated by the mutli-shelves of Star Wars books and the one measly shelf of Trek books that are at the bottom by the floor while Star Wars gets prominent placement.
Besides (and I'm not speaking for everyone here), I'd rather buy my books locally rather than online so I can help support my local economy. The local stores make that difficult though.
Well, Star Trek has always been about looking to the future, whereas Star Wars is more an exercise in nostalgia -- an homage to old movie serials, "A long time ago" as its setting, the whole thing being about trying to recapture the glory of a fallen Republic, etc. ST is about embracing the positive benefits of technology, while SW is more about rejecting a cold, technocratic state in favor of ancient spiritualism.
There's also the fact that, by almost any standard, Star Wars is more popular. Across 7 movies (including The Clone Wars), Wars has averaged $278 million per movie at the box office. Across 11 movies, Trek has averaged $92 million per movie at the box office. That means that, even with 4 fewer movies, Wars far more than doubles the total box office take of Trek. Since publishers don't release book sales figures, we obviously can't determine for certain if that trend extends to the books, but it's a decent extrapolation.
Oh, did I rain on your parade?
Oh, did I rain on your parade?
OOOkay now I'm worried....
Yeah, that pretty much confirmed it. I'll definitely be anxiously awaiting the announcement.
So, I have to slightly eat my words here. I went to one of the local Barnes & Nobles today to pick up a copy of Rough Beasts of Empire and, amazingly enough, the situation I described above was actually somewhat reversed. There was still only one measly shelf of Trek books, but it had VERY prominent placement. The Star Wars books (two shelves) were down at the bottom of the rack, mixed in amongst everything else.
I had reserved my copy of Rough Beasts last night online and, when I got to the store, there were no copies on the shelf. The gal at the counter told me that they only had two copies and both had been reserved.
Sounds like we've got some Trek fans "fighting the power" from the backrooms of some of our local brick-and-mortar booksellers!
Good to know.
Sadly, the Empire has triumphed at 4 of the closest book stores to where I live.
I shouldn't have to drive across town to pick up the latest Trek novel, which I still haven't been able to locate regardless.
Good to know.
Sadly, the Empire has triumphed at 4 of the closest book stores to where I live.
I shouldn't have to drive across town to pick up the latest Trek novel, which I still haven't been able to locate regardless.
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