The Kelvin Timeline Trilogy

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by pst, Nov 8, 2018.

  1. King Daniel Beyond

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    Just no more Klingons. Not for Into Darkness, they were the best Klingons ever. But Disco has run them into the ground at warp 7.
     
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    I agree to no more Klingons. They had already been run in to the ground long before Discovery or Into Darkness.

    If we have to have old aliens then I want Tholians, Andorians, maybe the plant critters from TAS, something really alien. No Borg, no Klingons.
     
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  3. saddestmoon

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    Confession time: Visually, I’d love to see the Ent-A dive down into an empty volcanic crater and travel through a planets lava tubes for the reason of [insert here], all the while dodging magma venting into the tube way from underground chambers... literal a race against a planets volcanism.
     
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  4. Serveaux

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    So, basically...

    ...If Sulu had remembered to disengage the inertial dampener, the Enterprise would have been destroyed with the rest of the fleet in orbit of Vulcan.

    Roll credits.
     
  5. Ovation

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    Well, if someone hadn’t been careless with Special Order 191, Antietam would have been a dramatically different moment.

    Even in real life, tiny events can have huge consequences.
     
  6. M.A.C.O.

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    I was under the impression the plot is what saved the Enterprise. Considering how long the tiny and over-matched USS Kelvin managed to hold off the Narada for several minutes. The 5 new ships, with updated tech and weapon post-Nero's invasion, couldn't hold water for the extra minute it took for Spock to correct Sulu about the external inertial dampener.

    That's JJ's fast moving story telling style for you though. Not the biggest egerious thing in 2009. Later in the Exosphere skydive scene, I guess physics were taking a break. Olsen, Kirk and Sulu should've been ripped to pieces by the force of gravity from the height they dropped from and speed at which they were moving.

    Jajaja
     
  7. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    Why?
     
  8. DigificWriter

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    Star Trek '09 was my first "theatrical Trek experience" and is something I enjoyed immensely (although Insurrection is still my favorite Trek movie overall), and while I liked Into Darkness a little less (largely due to some marketing missteps by Abrams), it was still a very enjoyable experience for me.

    Sadly, I missed the opportunity to see Beyond in a theater and haven't yet had an opportunity to see it on home media largely due to lack of time and access, but I do want to see it at some point.
     
  9. King Daniel Beyond

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    You do know Budweiser sponsored a real-life version of the ST'09 skydive? And the guy didn't die?
     
  10. M.A.C.O.

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    Do you mean Felix Baumgartner? If so, that was 24 miles above the surface of the planet. 2009 had the trio drop from at least the thermosphere of Vulcan. For comparison's sake, the ISS is 250 miles above Earth, in the thermosphere.

    To make a long story short. Looking up the mechanics and what others have said online. The human body isn't large enough to catch fire from friction, but would burn from air pressure from speed. With regard to speed, the human body is small enough that it will slow to terminal velocity (125 mph) after several seconds. Where something like the ISS (larger than a football field and moving 17,000 mph around the plaent) would accelerate and burn upon reentry.

    Things just looked to be moving a lot faster in the movie for Kirk and co. Doing the conversion from mph to m/s and timing Kirk and co shouting out distance to target, also makes judging how fast they were moving tricky.

    To make a long story shorter, my post was said in jest. I wanted others to laugh at the absurdity of the scene. However, I was proven wrong. Plus, given Vulcan's noted thinnger atmosphere compared to Earth (the Amok Time). Perhaps the scene played out true to sceince. Or as true as scifi can be atm.