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The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)

Oh, I got it. They're going to do an adaptation of Jeffrey Deaver's novel Carte Blanche, now with Alexa and the smart phone being Bond's sidekicks.

(If you read the novel, you'll get the reference).
I really liked that novel. Even wrote a theme song for it, though being more of a writer, I would have hade to give it to a proper musician to turn it into something worth listening to. Did manage to work in some quotes from the novel, though.

I also really liked the self-aware joke of a reboot having a villain who made his money in recycling.
Another thing I took issue with was someone breaking the franchise down into the Eon era (1962-2025) and the Amazon era, which again seems wrong because surely the Eon era isn't a homogenous period. You have the Broccoli and Saltzman period, then Cubby on his own, then Barbara and Michael.
I think the Cubby to Barbara and Michael era is a bit more fluid, as both Michael and Barbara had been working on the movies in some capacity during Cubby's run.
 
Another thing I took issue with was someone breaking the franchise down into the Eon era (1962-2025) and the Amazon era, which again seems wrong because surely the Eon era isn't a homogenous period. You have the Broccoli and Saltzman period, then Cubby on his own, then Barbara and Michael.
Absolutely. The dividing line between The Man With the Golden Gun and The Spy Who Loved me is fairly bright, but far more so the line between License to Kill and Goldeneye.

The doomsayers (who may all be right, I just don't agree with their reasons) seem to think that this was an unbroken "era" of "true Bond". Five minutes ago they were decrying the last three Bond films (at least) as the "feminizing of James Bond" and other such rot.

(I do need to finish No Time To Die.)

Also the accusation that the Bond franchise will now become motivated by PROFIT and PRODUCT as opposed to when Cubby Broccoli ran the show is falling down on the ground and I can't catch my breath hilarious.
 
Absolutely. The dividing line between The Man With the Golden Gun and The Spy Who Loved me is fairly bright, but far more so the line between License to Kill and Goldeneye.

The doomsayers (who may all be right, I just don't agree with their reasons) seem to think that this was an unbroken "era" of "true Bond". Five minutes ago they were decrying the last three Bond films (at least) as the "feminizing of James Bond" and other such rot.

(I do need to finish No Time To Die.)

Also the accusation that the Bond franchise will now become motivated by PROFIT and PRODUCT as opposed to when Cubby Broccoli ran the show is falling down on the ground and I can't catch my breath hilarious.
I’ve seen people lament that Bond will now start doing product placement, which has not only been a feature of the films for years but a feature over which Fleming lavished considerable detail and attention.
 
Also the accusation that the Bond franchise will now become motivated by PROFIT and PRODUCT as opposed to when Cubby Broccoli ran the show is falling down on the ground and I can't catch my breath hilarious.
I think the folks who are anxious about what Amazon might do with the property are obviously wrong in the sense that yes, Cubby Broccoli was a film producer. The current film needed to turn a profit for there to be a next film. But there's something... I don't know, mythical (for lack of a better word) about the continuity of the Broccoli/Wilson family being in charge of Bond for 60 years, or George Lucas and Star Wars – even though they still had to function within the capitalist marketplace of the film industry – and that's going to be lost now.

Where they are justified in being concerned is this: folks see what's gone on with Marvel and Star Wars being part of the Disney empire (some good, some bad, some meh, and Kathleen Kennedy is not the anti-Christ, contrary to what a bunch of bloviating incel YouTubers would have you believe). They expect Amazon to follow the same pattern with Bond: start out with some interesting projects as part of a broader "Bond universe," but at some point they're going to milk that cow until it bleeds.
 
I think the folks who are anxious about what Amazon might do with the property are obviously wrong in the sense that yes, Cubby Broccoli was a film producer. The current film needed to turn a profit for there to be a next film. But there's something... I don't know, mythical (for lack of a better word) about the continuity of the Broccoli/Wilson family being in charge of Bond for 60 years, or George Lucas and Star Wars – even though they still had to function within the capitalist marketplace of the film industry – and that's going to be lost now.

Where they are justified in being concerned is this: folks see what's gone on with Marvel and Star Wars being part of the Disney empire (some good, some bad, some meh, and Kathleen Kennedy is not the anti-Christ, contrary to what a bunch of bloviating incel YouTubers would have you believe). They expect Amazon to follow the same pattern with Bond: start out with some interesting projects as part of a broader "Bond universe," but at some point they're going to milk that cow until it bleeds.
I suppose also, for better or worse, the Bond series has been unapologetically cinematic (probably even more so over the last 30 years when they began hiring outside of their usual stable of journeymen directors). Most Amazon films feel like tv movies with a bigger budget - did anyone here see eg Red One in the cinema? It would be a shame to lose one of the few non-superhero franchises from the big screen.
 
"I'm sorry Mr. Bond. We're replacing your Aston Martin with an Amazon delivery truck. It's fully equipped with the latest GPS. We want you to deliver packages on the way to your next assignment."
 
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