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The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)
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Meanwhile, Timothy Dalton got THE worst movies. You’ve gotta feel for him. At least Brosnan got a few good movies!
Both of his were pretty good, if not superb.
His first wasn't bad but the second...oy (Wayne Newton? Wayne Friggin' Newton?). Interesting how LTK kind of turned into the template (Bond goes rogue on a personal mission of vengeance) for most of the Craig movies.
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The Bensons are all pretty good, and basically star pierce Brosnan.
Perception shmersheption. If one judged Bond by AP, we would never have had Spectre…
(I j/k)
I’ve read Sebastian Faulks’ Devil May Care, in which he tries to write in the voice of Fleming. It’s a sequel to the novel of TMWTGG. Wasn’t bad, IIRC.
Also read Jeffrey Deaver’s Carte Blanche, which is a sort of alternate CR, by which I mean it’s an origin story for James Bond but set in 2011, where Q is a young Asian guy and most of Bond’s tech is basically a fancy iPhone. Pretty entertaining.
Then you’ve Anthony Horowitz’ trilogy, Forever and a Day, a prequel to CR; Trigger Mortis, set immediately after Goldfinger; and With A Mind to Kill, also set after TMWTGG (presumably meaning that it can’t be reconciled with Faulks’ book) but carrying over plot threads from YOLT. I read Forever some time ago and enjoyed it. Picked up the other two a few weeks ago in a second hand bookshop and read them both fairly quickly. Very enjoyable.
(All references to when the Faulks and Horowitz books are set refer to the Fleming timeline, not the movies)
Bless your heart!
Newton was perfect for what he was playing — a cheesy televangelist at a time when American airwaves were crawling with them, and a bunch of them (Bakker and Swaggart especially) had become mired in scandal around the same time LTK was in production.
But why are Bond and Carey Lowell's character dealing with such unthreatening Davy Jones types when there's a serious vendetta to conclude? I've always felt to eliminate Frank McCrae and Everett McGill so early in the game to make room for danke-schoen shenanigans is more whacked than Christopher Walken's marble collection.
It's not a perfect film by a longshot but it's easily in my Top 10 Bond Films. I love how it both subtly and then directly references OHMSS and Bond's tragic marriage and in my head canon he's so furious at Sanchez and his organization and hellbent on revenge because what happened to Felix and Della reminded him of losing Tracy on their wedding day.
James had to endure that agony, and he was going to stop at nothing to make sure Felix had closure.
It's still a Bond movie in the 1980s, they weren't going to let him go full-on Bronson all over Sanchez, Krest, and Dario.
Shameless side-note plug: my ''wish-fulfillment'' 100-men BATTLE ROYALE deluxe epic version included Bronson, Dalton, Connery and Danny Craig. No Moore.( I had to make room for Woody Allen.) Those five and 95 others fought it out no-holds barred with every weapon imaginable, including a mini-nuke. Do you want to know more? If not, I'll just say Woody's weapon was a used condom and he strangled Marlon Brando with it at the halfway point.
Nope, I think I'm OK with not knowing.
*“What a glorious day on the internet - dear lord” meme*
Just as an addendum, the televangelist scandals of the late '80s also fueled William Shatner's early ideas for what became Star Trek V: The Final Frontier. So it was on a lot of folks' minds.Bless your heart!
Newton was perfect for what he was playing — a cheesy televangelist at a time when American airwaves were crawling with them, and a bunch of them (Bakker and Swaggart especially) had become mired in scandal around the same time LTK was in production.
Nah, The Living Daylights is a top 5 Bond film for me and Licence to Kill is top ten. The only Bond film I'd place higher than TLD is Goldeneye and LTK is better than DAD or TWINE and probably on a par with TND
Kilifer is eaten by sharks, Krest is exploded, Dario chewed to pieces by a grinder and Sanchez burned alive!
Yeah, though back then it was the exception so it worked, and was genuinely shocking, whereas in the Craig era it's practically standard operating procedure.
You can argue that Bond goes rogue in OHMSS I guess but it feels like it's a very different situation
Yes. TLD was and remains my favorite Bond film, and Dalton my favorite Bond on the strength of it. I was so primed to love LtK, but much as I'd like to, I've never been able to work up the same enthusiasm for it.
I do adore GoldenEye (but not more than Daylights).
They also exploded Dr. Kananga in LALD, and Mr. Kidd gets set on fire in DAF. What we see when Killifer gets eaten by the shark isn't really any more graphic than when Helga Brandt got fed to the piranhas in YOLT or Stromberg's secretary got fed to a shark in TSWLM. That said, the level/quantity of violence and (perhaps) the cold-bloodedness of it was enough to make LTK the first PG-13 rated Bond film, but maybe apart from Dario getting fed to the grinder, it wasn't anything we hadn't seen before.
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