The Inhumans Marvel/IMAX

[JD]

It does seem to kind of flow and wave behind her, and it even jumps when Maixmus grabs her, so it's at least not totally still. What you're talking about just seems like it would be way to complicated to do on a regular basis on TV. They have done some pretty impressive stuff on other shows, but that nothing quite on that level.

 

[Christopher]

What you're talking about just seems like it would be way to complicated to do on a regular basis on TV.

What? No, this is so much simpler than what I was proposing before. What I'm suggesting is no more complicated than the way a cheesy Halloween spider costume or B-movie monster costume can fake extra limbs. I'm talking about simple, stiff wires that are flexible enough to shake when the wearer moves. Hell, you can come close to the effect I'm talking about just with a lot of hairspray -- go watch anything Farrah Fawcett-Majors was in back in the '70s. It's not that hard to to make hair bouncy and springy. I'm just talking about adding some additional springiness with a very, very cheap, simple costuming trick. I'm astonished that you'd think this is complicated.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Hairdo shaming!

 

[Jax]

First review

Simply awful. I’m so disappointed since I generally love everything Marvel does. But this is absolutely terrible. The dialogue is atrocious. The fight sequences are shockingly choreographed. The sets (or more-so the obvious green-screen) aren’t that crash hot either. It’s only saving grace is Lockjaw who is adorable. As one of the few people that actually liked Iron Fist, I can easily say that this is Scott Buck’s worst work yet.]

 

[Turtletrekker]

Yikes!

Well, after all this time, Marvel was due for a misfire. I'm just sad that it's on a project that I was so looking forward to.

 

[Relayer1]

Wow, in addition to the other issues the casting doesn't look great. Especially so for Medusa.

This looks pretty poor all round. Marvel keep plugging away with Inhumans in the comics to little effect - they're just not very popular, never really were. It looks like they've managed to transfer their unlikeability to the screen intact.

 

[Christopher]

Wow, in addition to the other issues the casting doesn't look great. Especially so for Medusa.

I don't think the casting is the problem there. Serinda Swan was terrific as Zatanna on Smallville. I think she's just poorly served by her costuming and hairstyling and perhaps by the writing and directing.

 

[kirk55555]

I think I definitely have to see the first episode when it airs. A complete train wreck is usually an interesting thing to see Hopefully this ends Scott Buck's association with the MCU completely, and makes the TV division of the MCU a bit more picky when it comes to who they hire to run their shows.

 

[Anwar]

I have to wonder how much of this is due to the backlash from the X-Men fans.

 

[Christopher]

I have to wonder how much of this is due to the backlash from the X-Men fans.

What? Why would there be "backlash?" Just because the corporations have a rivalry over the X-Men and the Inhumans, it doesn't follow that fandom would have one too. After all, the fans have no financial stake in the matter, so there's no incentive to pit the two groups against each other rather than be open to enjoying them both.

Also, how much of what? Are you suggesting that the reviewer would falsify a bad review to pander to X-Men fans? How does that make any sense?

 

[Reverend]

On the positive side: this should kill any fear that 'Inhumans' with supplant or replace AoS and if it can't even make it to a complete first season it may actually save AoS from cancellation. Or at the very least raise the odds of a SWORD spin-off a little bit.

I don't think the casting is the problem there. Serinda Swan was terrific as Zatanna on Smallville. I think she's just poorly served by her costuming and hairstyling and perhaps by the writing and directing.

Not sure I follow the logic of that statement. The character of Zatanna is nothing like Medusa, so I hardly see how someone doing OK with one role should be equally OK with the other. This is like saying "John Wayne wasn't miscast as Ghengis Khan, because he was great in True Grit and The Searchers!" Which is of course moronic on the face of it.

I have to wonder how much of this is due to the backlash from the X-Men fans.

Not much I imagine. It was pretty clear from the trailer footage that this wasn't going to be very good, so the early reviews aren't all that surprising.

 

[Anwar]

What? Why would there be "backlash?"

X-Fans tend to be po'ed that the X-Men are no longer the Belles of the Ball at Marvel, and see any attempt to make other characters popular as an attack on the X-Men.

 

[Christopher]

X-Fans tend to be po'ed that the X-Men are no longer the Belles of the Ball at Marvel, and see any attempt to make other characters popular as an attack on the X-Men.

If so, this is the first I've heard of it. And I've been at least somewhat an X-Men fan since the '90s animated series.

 

[Starbreaker]

Inhumans comics don't sell at all. They're selling about 1,000 issues a month while all the X-Men titles are hitting at least 50,000.

 

[Christopher]

Any rivalry between X-Men and Inhumans is an artificial outgrowth of a quirk of business and licensing. There's no reason fans should be affected by that, no reason why we should want to pit them against each other just because of who stands to profit from them. Both sets of characters were created by Lee and Kirby. Both have been part of Marvel history since the mid-60s, originating less than 3 years apart.

If we could have a good Inhumans TV series from Marvel Studios alongside good X-Men movies and TV shows from Fox, that would be great. More good entertainment all around is good for everyone. So there's no sense in treating this as a competition.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Inhumans comics don't sell at all. They're selling about 1,000 issues a month while all the X-Men titles are hitting at least 50,000.

That's not accurate. No comic sells 1,000 a month. The highest in the direct market for Inhumans is 25,000 and the lowest is 15,000 or so. That's direct market not counting digital sales.

X-Men have had an established at the top of the pack since at least the 90s. They should be selling among the best. That being said, Gold and Blue might be at that range, but Gen X, Iceman, etc. are comparable to the Inhumans sale figures. Not that it really matters since I'd prefer both to sell well.

BTW, there was another review that was apparently more positive, but it got removed, which makes me wonder if there was an embargo this first one broke. The review is also apparently based on the first 40 minutes of the first episode.

ETA: Gold 5 sold 54,000, Blue 5 43,000, Weapon X 4 35,000, Cable 2 31,557, Jean Grey 3 23,140, Gen X 3 22,220, Iceman 2 22,075. Black Bolt 2 is at 26,435, Secret Warriors 3 is 20,457, and Royals 4 is 17,007. It's a shame Al Ewing doesn't seem to be able to sustain sales because I love his writing. It's also a shame that Gen X and Iceman aren't doing better. I hope they find alternative markets to sell in.

 

[Reverend]

I really don't think there's enough comic book readers for their opinions to have any meaningful effect on a TV show, one way or the other.
From what I've read readership across the industry and especially superhero titles has been in steady decline for years. At this point the merchandising revenues and licences are all that's keeping the actual comic book side of things afloat.

 

[Anwar]

Any rivalry between X-Men and Inhumans is an artificial outgrowth of a quirk of business and licensing.

It's not just the Inhumans, the X-Fanatics also dislike the rest of the Marvel Universe and don't like the X-Men interacting with any of them or even acknowledging that they live in the same world. The fans of the X-Movies are a great example.

 

[Christopher]

It's not just the Inhumans, the X-Fanatics also dislike the rest of the Marvel Universe and don't like the X-Men interacting with any of them or even acknowledging that they live in the same world. The fans of the X-Movies are a great example.

I don't know what you're talking about. I've never heard of any of this. Maybe you're on some boards where there are a few vocal extremists who dominate the conversation, because the extremists always try to pretend they represent the entirety of fandom, but it's usually just a few jerks drowning out everyone else with their incessant shouting and bullying. Don't mistake noise for numbers.

 

[Anwar]

I don't know what you're talking about. I've never heard of any of this. Maybe you're on some boards where there are a few vocal extremists who dominate the conversation, because the extremists always try to pretend they represent the entirety of fandom, but it's usually just a few jerks drowning out everyone else with their incessant shouting and bullying. Don't mistake noise for numbers.

What, you've never heard about how the X-Fans can't see how the X-Men can exist in a world where other superheroes aren't hated the way Mutants are?