THE HOBBIT (2012/2013): News, Rumors, Pics Till Release

[Greylock Crescent]

No, it isn't. It makes no sense storywise because it fundamentally changes what the Battle of Five Armies is all about. And even with all his alleged cinematic excess, Jackson would never go that route.

 

[BigJake]

His "alleged" excess?

 

[Greylock Crescent]

Aye. Some of us (and by "us" I am referring to me, myself and I) don't necessarily see it that way.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I agree with Peter Jackson's reasoning for changing the subtitle (whether it was recently or when the three-film was made) so I have no problem with it. Besides, "There and Back Again" already got its in-reference in Lord of the Rings.

 

[FPAlpha]

The third movie will now be called The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.

And it's got absolutely nothing to do with battles drawing more random people into the theatre then something as "wimpy" as "There and back again"

It's a cheap marketing ploy promising a big battle and it's also a big spoiler in the very title itself (for the many people who actually didn't read the books and don't spoil themselves on the internet).

 

[RoJoHen]

It's no more a spoiler than "Return of the King."

 

[sojourner]

or "The Empire Strikes Back" or "The Return of the Jedi".

 

[Alidar Jarok]

The third movie will now be called The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.

And it's got absolutely nothing to do with battles drawing more random people into the theatre then something as "wimpy" as "There and back again"

Yeah, I honestly believe it has nothing to do with that. I think it's the most fitting title for what will take up the bulk of the movie (assuming it's inappropriate to name the story after the Necromancer part instead of the Bilbo part).

It's a cheap marketing ploy promising a big battle and it's also a big spoiler in the very title itself (for the many people who actually didn't read the books and don't spoil themselves on the internet).

I expect the battle to be seen in the trailers anyway. Would you prefer the trailer to only cover the first 15 minutes of the film?

 

[Candlelight]

Both movies have been as boring as shit. Hopefully the third film will redeem itself but the story is just so dull. It would be fine if they were 2 hour movies but they draaaaag horrendously.

 

[Skywalker]

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that. The first movie perhaps could have been trimmed down quite a bit (to be honest I actually enjoyed the opening sequence in Bag End, more than most it seems), but I thought the second movie was pretty entertaining from start to finish.

 

[RoJoHen]

I've liked them well enough, but the problem I have is that I care way more about the Galdalf/Necromancer stuff than anything Bilbo has been doing. The Dwarves' story just isn't all that interesting.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that. The first movie perhaps could have been trimmed down quite a bit (to be honest I actually enjoyed the opening sequence in Bag End, more than most it seems), but I thought the second movie was pretty entertaining from start to finish.

Yeah, that's my thoughts too. I thought the first movie needed five minutes trimmed from nearly every scene. The second one seemed well-paced from beginning to end.

 

[Skywalker]

Warner Bros. has released the official synopsis:

From Academy Award®-winning filmmaker Peter Jackson comes "The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies," the third in a trilogy of films adapting the enduringly popular masterpiece The Hobbit, by J.R.R. Tolkien.

"The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies" brings to an epic conclusion the adventures of Bilbo Baggins, Thorin Oakenshield and the Company of Dwarves. Having reclaimed their homeland from the Dragon Smaug, the Company has unwittingly unleashed a deadly force into the world. Enraged, Smaug rains his fiery wrath down upon the defenseless men, women and children of Lake-town.

Obsessed above all else with his reclaimed treasure, Thorin sacrifices friendship and honor to hoard it as Bilbo's frantic attempts to make him see reason drive the Hobbit towards a desperate and dangerous choice. But there are even greater dangers ahead. Unseen by any but the Wizard Gandalf, the great enemy Sauron has sent forth legions of Orcs in a stealth attack upon the Lonely Mountain.

As darkness converges on their escalating conflict, the races of Dwarves, Elves and Men must decide – unite or be destroyed. Bilbo finds himself fighting for his life and the lives of his friends in the epic Battle of the Five Armies, as the future of Middle-earth hangs in the balance.​

I also read that the first trailer has been rated, so hopefully that means we'll get to see it soon. With Comic-Con only ten days away, I won't be surprised if they make us wait until then.

 

[JD]

Comic-Con does seem to be the most popular theory for the trailer at the moment.

 

[SPCTRE]

So how many years until the inevitable LotR reboot?

 

[Mach5]

So how many years until the inevitable LotR reboot?

Take it easy, they first need to do a special (20th?) anniversary 3D post-converted edition with all-new, re-done CGI. All in given time.

 

[JarodRussell]

LotR should never be remade. What would you possibly gain from a remake?

 

[Jedi_Master]

LotR should never be remade. What would you possibly gain from a remake?

Money? Lots and lots of Money?

 

[Skywalker]

I wouldn't be surprised if Warner Bros. tries to squeeze out more movies as long as they have the film rights. I still fully expect them to try and make a movie about Aragorn in his younger days.

 

[Gaith]

I wouldn't be surprised if Warner Bros. tries to squeeze out more movies as long as they have the film rights. I still fully expect them to try and make a movie about Aragorn in his younger days.

They can't - they only have the film rights to LotR and The Hobbit, not Middle-Earth and its characters as a whole, and Christopher Tolkien ain't selling. They could probably remake those two/four books, but they won't, for obvious reasons. (A 3D conversion, OTOH, seems like a no-brainer.)

It was reported for a while that Jackson and Co. wanted to make two prequel movies - The Hobbit, plus a "bridge" movie filling in the rest of the time. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the WB lawyers said the bridge movie was a no-go, thus compelling them to over-stuff The Hobbit beyond what they'd originally planned, and the rest is a history of wild, wild snowballing.