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The Gul The Bad And The Ugly !

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Just been watching a lot of DS9 recently and reached a conclusion that Gul Dakat is one of the best villains star trek series has ever had .

Lets look at his past history . ?

S1 Just been on screen was showing how evil he was .
S2 Joins forces with sisko to try wipe out the maquis .
S3 Again joins forces with sisko whilst trying to stop tom riker from starting a war with the cardys .
S4 Swaps sides and rescue,s the cardys political party from the klingons very smug and slimy indeed .
Ask,s kira for her help to find his daughter half bajoran half cardy kira stops him from killing her .
S5 Helps sisko and crew to reveal the klingon changling but mocks sisko,s motivates .
Retakes DS9 and forms alliance with the dominion .
S6 Fails to open the wormhole and gets his only daughter killed by one of his closet friends Damar .
Takes up a forbidden bajoran religion and kills Dax sisko,s closet friend and closes the wormhole .
S7 Gets strangely altered and lies and kills kai winn and in the process kills himself and the emissary . ?

Hopefully thats it but if i,ve missed anything please tell me if they made a film about him it would be called The Gul he bad And The Ugly !!!! :eek:
 
I have always thought that either he or Khan were the best villian.

I've always wanted The Sisko to stand on some remote craphole planet and shout into his comm badge...."Dukat..................Dukaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttttttttttttttttttt"
 
Dukat beats out Khan easily. Take away Montalban's acting skills and what are you left with? Nothing.

Alaimo is a big part of Dukat, but even without him his character is still at the top.

Him and Q, my faves.
 
I'm not sure I'd say much about his acting, since he only has one setting: MASSIVE HAM. At least in the two pieces of Star Trek he's been in. Haven't seen him in anything else.

Dukat is fantastic though, best villain ST has ever had, unquestionably. Sometime, with the knowledge of how his relationship with Sisko ends up, watch Emissary and look at the camera shot for the first time Dukat walks into Sisko's office. It's uncanny!
 
I've been re-watching DS9 lately and appreciating him more than I did the first time I saw it (this is only my second time), but I still think the character was ruined after "Sacrifice of Angels". That was the last episode I enjoyed watching him in. I think maybe he should have only come back once after that for a final battle with Sisko in which he was killed. His whole arc with Kai Winn and those evil spirits was just stupid. He was great simply as the arrogant Hitler-like Cardassian.
 
Alaimo is a big part of Dukat, but even without him his character is still at the top.

I dunno...I couldn't imagine it working as well without Mr. Alaimo. A lesser actor simply couldn't pull it off. He invested himself very deeply in that character and had the ability to control all of the subtle details--which is particularly impressive with such a larger-than-life character.
 
I was creeped out by how he manipulated Winn, and I was a tiny bit jealous. He sure could wear scales! Alaimo did inhabit the role like few other actors could have. Dukat would've been interesting anyway but Alaimo was Dukat.
 
I think Dukat was a great character and Marc Alaimo did a great job of portraying him, but for me the Dukat that we knew pretty much died after Sacrifice of Angels, or at the latest Waltz. Part of it was the absence of Ziyal, who I think was the best thing that ever happened to Dukat, but more than that, in the last season he was basically a puppet of the Pah Wraiths - a monster, but not the monster we knew and (sort of) loved.
 
I didn't like Dukat after Sacrifice of Angels either...not just because he went insane, that worked for me but I think he should have stayed like that and not come back with such control over himself later. And the whole possession arc was nonsense. Before Sacrifice of Angels he was evil, but in control. He had limits, almost a conscience...which made him more interesting as he constantly ignored the good in him or did good things for the wrong reason, or even evil things for good reasons. After that he was just creepy and insane.
 
I don't know, Dukat becoming the Anti-Emissary fit for the relationship between him and Sisko.
 
He never had much relationship with Sisko before season 6. If they had made him Kira or Garak's nemesis it would've been much more fitting.
 
Who says he has to be the nemesis/personal enemy to only one character? It's more impressive and shows a greater character for him to have many enemies in the cast.
 
Dukat's definitely one of the better villains in the franchise and one of DS9's best characters overall.

I don't know, Dukat becoming the Anti-Emissary fit for the relationship between him and Sisko.
It made no sense for the character, it simply set him up as the anti-Sisko for a bit of good/evil dichotomy.
 
Yeah, exactly--he ALWAYS had a weird relationship with Sisko, even in earlier seasons. It's like he craved Sisko's approval somehow, and got angry when he didn't get it. It's not unlike the way he related to Kira, except it wasn't so sexual. (I never saw any sign of Dukat being interested in men.)

In some ways, what happened was the final culmination of that twisted desire for approval...once he gets power, that's the ultimate thing he wants to force: to get Sisko's submission as well as defeat.
 
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