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The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.14.11

How do you grade The Green Hornet?

  • A

    Votes: 8 22.9%
  • B

    Votes: 14 40.0%
  • C

    Votes: 6 17.1%
  • D

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • F

    Votes: 4 11.4%

  • Total voters
    35
  • Poll closed .
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

I think it's a classic example of how poor casting choices can ruin a film. It's very much like casting Will Smith as a post-Civil War secret service agent in Wild Wild West.

The studio hoped that the stars' enthusiasm and desire for the roles would translate in the fans' desire to see them in those roles -- but they were seriously misguided in that.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

This is the last Holiday Weekend(Presidents Day) that The Green Hornet will participate in but it has managed to get itself to a US domestic total of $95.6m now with a worldwide total of $217m to date.

Having dropped to about 1,200 theaters(less than half of what it opened with) in it's 6th weekend it's still trying to be the first film of 2011 to make it to the $100m mark.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

@BillJ...Cameron Diaz was actually a bright spot in the movie for me, one of the few from the film. The size of her role and how her character were written was what I had a major problem with. She was barely in the film for me to judge her performance.

The more I am reading Kevin Smith's Green Hornet comic and enjoying the hell out if it, the more I wish he'd been able to make it. It's just plain awesome. It has similar elements that Rogen's film except more mature and better written. Also would have had Kato's daughter Mulan as the new Kato. Smith has legacy characters in his comic as Britt Reid Jr and Mulan Kato are the new Green Hornet and Kato. Jake Gyllenhall was approached by Smith for the part and Britt Reid Jr kind of resembles him in terms of the art. I would recommend reading it if you haven't. Phil Hester has taken over writing duties as of the third arc.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

The movie's made almost 220 million worldwide; there'll be a sequel with Rogen and Chou.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

Yes that's been discussed here already. Someone posted a link with Chou saying he has a contract for the sequel then he's going back to his music lol.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

It lost another large chunk of theaters for the second straight weekend. It's theater count is now under 300. The films chances of crossing $100m have now shrunk drastically. It lost more than most were thinking, this time last week the majority still thought it's chances of crossing $100m were even. There seems to be little predictability on how many theaters any given film might lose.

It did cross over $97m with this weekends totals. It's worldwide stands at $223m but should go up tomorrow when international numbers are added.

The Green Hornet/Sony does have the bragging rights that it's been the #1 grossing film for 9/10 weeks running at least. For whatever that's worth.

2011 is still trying to get its first $100m film for the year. Sandler's movie Just Go With It is the next best candidate for that now. At least to do it first if TGH should still manage to crawl there.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

I'm thinking "Sucker Punch" has a really good chance later this month...I have predicted that it will be a sleeper hit. I'm not really sure how many people are aware of the film outside of geekdom.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

It lost another large chunk of theaters for the second straight weekend. It's theater count is now under 300. The films chances of crossing $100m have now shrunk drastically. It lost more than most were thinking, this time last week the majority still thought it's chances of crossing $100m were even. There seems to be little predictability on how many theaters any given film might lose.

It's hardly a big deal in this day and age that a movie that's been out for six weeks is so far down in the theater count. And while it's Domestic totals don't off-set the production costs there's, like, a whole planet out there so it's World Wide boxoffice is $223m, almost double the movie's production costs. With DVD/BD sales the movie will make a decent enough profit to green-light a sequel. (Which I believe has already happened.)
 
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Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

^ Yep. Jay Chou basically confirmed it would happen. Gondry most likely won't return as director though. It seems the norm these days for films not to have a very long shelf life in theaters. The crap ones barely last a month or two now.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

More accurately, all but two or three a season only last a month or two now - good, bad or indifferent.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

Even in the the 1960's series the Black Beauty had a wireless uplink. So in the 2011 version the car does not have WIFI of any kind to upload the confession (well there was none, but still) even them carrying around a dell laptop with celular wifi would have worked..lol
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

It seems the films that have some box office success stay around for about 4 months, which is a longer cycle now adays. Like Young said the crap ones are gone in about 2months it seems.

The push to get the film to DVD, HBO, Netflix in a certain window to add to the bottom line is much greater now. I recall 20yrs ago it would be nothing for a film to take a year or longer to come out on *gasp* VHS.

I'd wager The Green Hornet is due for a DVD release around June, give or take a few weeks.
Even in the the 1960's series the Black Beauty had a wireless uplink. So in the 2011 version the car does not have WIFI of any kind...
These are the type observations I wasn't able to make having only seen a few episodes and sometime ago at that. The comics have been my dominant introduction and those were always of fairly high entertainment and consistency.
Went to the Metropolis, IL WonderFest(comic convention) and bought a bootleg copy of the 60's series. Never have seen all of them. Looking forward to seeing them but not till after I finish nuBSG which I'm watching for the first time.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

Yeah I remember when it was a pretty big deal for blockbuster films to be released on VHS and sometimes would take up to a year. I remember when "Batman" came out on VHS in 1990. I think my brother and I got it for Christmas that year.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

YEARGHHH! Zombie thread. Just wanted to bring up a little news on a possible sequel.

From the Hollywood Reporter, in an interview about 21 Jump Street.

THR: Is The Green Hornet an example of a movie that wasn't liked enough to warrant a sequel?
Moritz: The problem wasn't that. The movie did almost $250 million and was actually very well liked, but we made the movie for too much money. One, we made it in L.A. for certain reasons, and two, we decided to go to 3D -- that added another $10 million. If I had done it in a tax-rebate state and not done 3D, it would have been considered a huge financial success for the studio. So we're not making a sequel right now.

Sad, nor surprising, this is not.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

I was going to revive this thread myself, partly because of the link Professor Zoom posted but also because I finally watched the movie over the weekend. I really only watched it because it was one of a few free Blu-rays which came with a Blu-ray player we bought last month. I certainly wouldn't have bought it and while I might have rented it had the reviews been good, I had no plans to because of the bad reviews.

With expectations quite low, I did quite enjoy the movie. I couldn't say that it was a great or even good movie but it did make me laugh at times. I was surprised at how much it was played for out-and-out laughs; even with Rogan on board, the hype and advertising had emphasised the action side of things.

Kick-ass did the same sort of thing way better but GH did make me laugh out loud a few times and generally kept me amused. Like most of Rogan's movies, it was too long but I enjoyed him, Chou and Christoph Waltz.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

I almost posted the link yesterday but got sidetracked. I posted it at SHH then had a work issue come up and totally forgot.

I think the interesting thing here is that essentially there is an admission of poor planning on the front end for this film. The producer acknowledges they filmed in pricey LA for reasons he doesn't name instead of a tax rebate location. Plus doing a 3-D conversion added a cost of $10m. So, cheaper filming locale plus knock off the 3-D and this film would likely already have a sequel approved or it would be on the calendar for a shooting schedule. Piss Poor management of Pre-Production is my takeway from his comments.

The film had it's moments and depending on what script lessons they learned was/is poised to possibly be a better character film in a sequel...at least for Brit. Kato was the solid character in the first film imo.
 
Re: The Green Hornet: Grade, Review, Discuss, Speculate-Seth Rogan 1.1

This is all damage control. In all likelihood, the 3D conversion didn't lose the studio any money due to the greater cost of 3D tickets. And "almost $250 million" is an exaggeration; the movie grossed just under $228 million worldwide. Even the revenue from domestic DVD sales ($15.5 million) don't quite push it towards that number.

No, even if they had been able to save a few million by shooting outside of LA, the film still would have just barely out-grossed its budget domestically. That's disappointing and hardly near being sequel-worthy for a movie of this size.
 
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