*~*~The Great J/C Thread~*~*
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^ I think understood that. But somewhere or other, I guess, there has to be some sort of dividing line, and on one side of that line are the J/C shippers, wherever they fall on the shipper spectrum, and on the other are non-shippers. Where that line may be is probably in the eye of the beholder.
But I think only the real shippers should get the membership card.
If you are not ready to come out from the closet yet (just kidding!), we may agree that you are a J/C supporter (=not against the idea, but not obsessed about it either) instead of J/Cer.
Someone made the comment about the Full Circle books a while back. I think I'm gonna read an exerpt from amazon.com to see what I think!
Personally, I love fanfic post Endgame myself. I try to imagine a different ending..and the Spirit Walk books really made me breathe a sigh of relief cause they did away with C/7. It was mentioned that Chakotay's sister Sekaya always thought that her brother "held a torch for his former Captain".
That made me smile right there.
But to hear them finally getting together and then her being ripped away from him AGAIN?! That's just not fair, IMO!
Personally, I love fanfic post Endgame myself. I try to imagine a different ending..and the Spirit Walk books really made me breathe a sigh of relief cause they did away with C/7. It was mentioned that Chakotay's sister Sekaya always thought that her brother "held a torch for his former Captain".
That made me smile right there.But to hear them finally getting together and then her being ripped away from him AGAIN?! That's just not fair, IMO!
It's not that I don't want to join the club, and of course it's very nice that you want me
One kind is the "It would have been nice if they had eventually got together" sort, and that's where I fit (perhaps Praetor does as well, but he should probably speak for himself). But for some people, the relationships - the romance or romances - are actually their favorite part of Voyager. That's really my definition of a J/C shipper, inaccurate though it may be.
Well, that is most definitely not me. Relationships - any relationships - are an important part of an ensemble show such as Voyager, and they are crucial to character development. And so as they help develop the characters and the plot, I welcome them.
But for one thing, for me romance isn't the most important relationship to see - not even close. I, in fact, really enjoy the friendship and trust between Chakotay and Janeway - I think that friendship is far more important to the overall plot of Voyager, not to mention to the crew of Voyager, than any romance.
I think, really, part of my resistance to the whole J/C romance thing is that I didn't want to see this wonderful adult friendship degenerate into yet another ::yawn:: stereotypical TV-drama-type romance. You guys have mentioned that it's rare to see a mature adult romance on television, and you're right. But it's even rarer to see a mature adult friendship between an attractive man and an attractive woman. Yet that occurs in real life, too.
And there are as well other important relationships and emotions that aren't romantic - friendship, rivalry, distrust, treachery, jealousy, alienation, comradery (sp?), loneliness, etc., etc., etc. All those things are in Voyager, too - and they are, to me, far - far - more important to the show than deep meaningful glances, fraught with passion, between Janeway and Chakotay.
You know those episodes that some of you have referred to as "lost opportunities" for J and C to get together? My reaction was invariably almost the exact opposite of yours. I was so relieved they didn't let "the inevitable" happen. Because to me it is not only not inevitable, but also undesirable.
And that's really why I don't consider myself a shipper. It's a nice idea, but it's just not that important to my enjoyment of the show. But if you still want me in the club, when do I get my membership card?
Not surprisingly, I tend to agree with JustKate. Very well said, JK. I can't think of a single other thing to add to that.
That's awesome!
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LOL Tachyon that is so cool, did you know I carry my "other" membership card behind my work badge, no one has said anything yet lol. Of course I am also the one with the Trek stuff plastered to the walls of my cube. (what can I say except Trek is a lot cooler than the "SpongeBob Squarepants" someone else has, even the woman with the "Beware of the Attack Republican" sign in her cube likes Trek.)
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Spongebob? Pah-ha-ha-ha-ha My kids like that. You're supposed to 'progress' onto more grown up stuff, like Voyager for example
Having nothing better to do (NOT!) I've been reading some of the fanfics recommended at the beginning of this thread - I've decided the one entitled 'undeniable' is my version of post endgame events rather than the 'official' pocket books tripe. It has it all- they keep their starfleet careers but aren't totally happy, they dabble with other people but eventually realise they're made for each other after a couple of false starts, and the various costs of that are explored too. Almost perfect!! I say 'almost' because I still don't believe Janeway would sleep with Chakotay, even after a bottle of bourbon or whatever-it-was, while he was still with Seven, (the woman is the ultimate devotion-to-duty control-freak after all) so I'd've preferred the author to split up C/7 earlier, but hey ho its the best I've read yet, certainly better than 'Homecoming'. And Absolutely No Deaths, Janeway gets the fulfilling life she deserves after her seven year trek home.
Right, off to sort out all those things I should be doing....
My kids like that. You're supposed to 'progress' onto more grown up stuff, like Voyager for example Having nothing better to do (NOT!) I've been reading some of the fanfics recommended at the beginning of this thread - I've decided the one entitled 'undeniable' is my version of post endgame events rather than the 'official' pocket books tripe. It has it all- they keep their starfleet careers but aren't totally happy, they dabble with other people but eventually realise they're made for each other after a couple of false starts, and the various costs of that are explored too. Almost perfect!! I say 'almost' because I still don't believe Janeway would sleep with Chakotay, even after a bottle of bourbon or whatever-it-was, while he was still with Seven, (the woman is the ultimate devotion-to-duty control-freak after all) so I'd've preferred the author to split up C/7 earlier, but hey ho its the best I've read yet, certainly better than 'Homecoming'. And Absolutely No Deaths, Janeway gets the fulfilling life she deserves after her seven year trek home.
Right, off to sort out all those things I should be doing....
Huzzah! Better.
Alrighty then - a fresh membership card for our mod. Now you may publicly comment J/C related issues outside this thread as well.
Ooooh, shiny! Thank you.
AH. I knew I'de find this thread eventually. Like coming home. J/C all the way and I detest that borg.
