Absolutely, especially considering the episode Metamorphosis, or was that mission to get Commissioner Hertford supposed to last a few months or years. That's emergency evacuation of the future.
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Absolutely, especially considering the episode Metamorphosis, or was that mission to get Commissioner Hertford supposed to last a few months or years. That's emergency evacuation of the future.
Well, "first officer" etc. derive from a source unrelated to military commissioned officers, and are not naval terms in the real world, not in English-speaking navies, anyway. Originally a merchant ship's master had a number of assistants called mates, the first mate being the most senior and next in command. By the 1600's it became common to call the master "captain," even though that was really a military rank. In the 1800s when scheduled ocean liners became a big business, some lines began to use the term "officer," the association with "officers and gentlemen" being thought more genteel that the more working-class-sounding "mate." Around the same time, a separate domain of engineers arose on the merchant ship, and to make clear his position relative to the chief engineer, the first mate/officer began to be called chief mate/officer. In some companies, this bumped first officer down to third in command, while others considered chief officer to be synonymous with first officer, and skipped from chief officer to second officer. This pattern has become pretty much standard now.
Meanwhile, warships had a captain (with rank of commander if they were smaller, or even lieutenant if they were really small) and a number of lieutenants depending on the size of the vessel. The first lieutenant (most senior) was second in command. In the 1820s, commanders were allowed to serve aboard large warships as second in command. The British tended to call this position simply "the commander," distinct from "the captain." On smaller ships, the first lieutenant was still second in command. The US Navy adopted the term "executive officer" instead, which could apply regardless of rank. In the USN first lieutenant continued on as the head of a ship's deck department.
And then, in the 20th century, airlines began to adopt captain and first officer instead of pilot and co-pilot. Partly because it had a classier ring to it, and partly because some passengers thought co-pilot was a lesser flying qualification.
So for whatever reason, Starfleet uses more civilian-derived terminology in that area.
Given that the shuttle interior set easily represents a 30' long vessel with multiple internal compartments (and possibly 2 entry hatches) I'd say that it was mostly a 23rd century Runabout already!
Agree. The shuttlecraft design having the twin nacelles should mean that they are warp drive capable being that two nacelles create the warp field just like the 1701.
I think it's a Bones thing more than an actual "first command"
I'm thinking at no time did Mr. Spock ever command his own ship (like Kirk would have commanded a smaller ship after being on the Farragut, we believe, at least) at that point and Bones is just being is acerbic self by saying this little shuttle is your "first command". Kind of like telling an officer in a life raft, this is your first command, it's not a literal command as no one is permanently assigned to a shuttle or lifeboat, they are used and returned.
I'm thinking at no time did Mr. Spock ever command his own ship (like Kirk would have commanded a smaller ship after being on the Farragut, we believe, at least) at that point and Bones is just being is acerbic self by saying this little shuttle is your "first command". Kind of like telling an officer in a life raft, this is your first command, it's not a literal command as no one is permanently assigned to a shuttle or lifeboat, they are used and returned.
Yes, this is what I'm thinking. Spock probably had previous experiences of being senior officer present, just not working so independently... no ship in orbit ready to beam them out when things got hairy, unfriendly local population with whom they could not communicate, etc. McCoy was speaking somewhat figuratively.
Sort of like in the tech industry, we have "management ladder" and "technical ladder". Engineers can now become senior engineers, principal engineers, and so on, and can enjoy the salary and "rank" previously only granted to managers. Spock is on the technical ladder.
The thing that I never got about Boma was why they felt the need to put in a one-shot character to serve as a vocal critic of Spock and his methods...McCoy was right freakin' there!
It's been done with McCoy, someone else can harrass Spock for an episode.
Because that character also had to be disposable. We'd never accept McCoy, as a long-term character, going after Spock with the intensity and unfairness of Boma. At the end of G7, Boma is burned out as a character. McCoy , though, goes on as a cranky but moderating voice. McCoy was a really well thought out dramatic character, in that he's partly there for conflict, but just specifically with Spock, for the most part , and conflict isn't his nature. It's brought out in him reluctantly, when he feels obligated. He's not the Anti-Spock. We would not like or accept him long term, if he were like Boma.
Besides, the more the merrier, as far as getting after Spock goes. It's supposed to be a group ganging up on Spock.
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It's from the tour de force remastering of G7...one of the handful of episodes improved just by the CGI alone...as far as helping convey the story-line along.What a dank hangar bay!! Is this from TAS?
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Is that the one where you can see the second shuttlecraft in the back when the Galileo takes off but then disappears when they change the viewing angle? I can't believe they missed something so obvious.
It went down the elevator.
That looks awful.
I think that McCoy would have survived it...there are examples of him going a little too far with Spock in plenty of other episodes. I'm more inclined to think that at this early point in the series, they didn't realize that it should be McCoy.
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