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The future of humanity

What's in store for future generations?

  • More of the same

    Votes: 19 35.8%
  • Slightly greater misery

    Votes: 7 13.2%
  • Slightly less misery

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • A bright prosperous future

    Votes: 15 28.3%
  • Much, much more misery

    Votes: 10 18.9%

  • Total voters
    53

F. King Daniel

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Every generation believes theirs to be the worst ever.

What do you think the future holds for the human race?

I think: We're screwed.

Social decay, terrorism, medicating miserable millions and god-knows-what-else doesn't leave me particularly optomistic.

I'd love to be proven wrong.
 
What does the future hold for the human race?

Some bad things, some good things, and extinction.
 
To quote Homer Simpson, "This is gonna get worse before it gets better!"

Extreme times motivate change and improvement. Historically, humanity has generally needed a serious kick up the ass to achieve much of anything. But when pushed, we can achieve pretty awesome and pretty heartwarming things.
 
I think: We're screwed.

Social decay, terrorism, medicating miserable millions and god-knows-what-else doesn't leave me particularly optomistic.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

What do you think would have to happen to create a happy outcome?
What in your opinion is a happy outcome?
 
I'm holding out hope.

Call it "audacity", but--I really believe, as do many others like me, that the paradigm is about to change.

Bit by bit, those of us who can do something, will--and America will wake up, and the world slowly will follow. All we have to do is lead the way to freedom.
 
Someonez is gotta win and someonez gonna lose pick sides now pplz. :lol:

People would have to give up their nature for everyone to be happy and the world a better place. Only the strong survive and might makes right to quote Zod.

Pie in the sky, everyone loving each other is never going to happen...eventually one group of humanity will conquer the rest and move on...that is the story.
 
Every generation believes theirs to be the worst ever.

Not true. My grandfather for example thought my generation was worthless, and his own was the greatest thing since cheese because they fought World War II. the fact that mine wasn't born until 25 years after that war ended, never seemed to matter.

As for what I think the future holds, I'd hope for the best while expecting the worst. But If we're REALLY lucky, more of the same.
 
I'm thinkin' we're headin' towards what was depicted in DS9's 'Past Tense'. and I don't think we're gonna come out of it nearly as well as they did.
 
I think: We're screwed.

Social decay, terrorism, medicating miserable millions and god-knows-what-else doesn't leave me particularly optomistic.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

What do you think would have to happen to create a happy outcome?
What in your opinion is a happy outcome?

I'm not sure. I think a better educational system would help a lot, and could reduce troubles like racism, sexism, teenage pregnancy etc. How to set up that system? I don't know. I know enough people would make a fuss to ensure the final product be so watered-down as to not be worth it.

How do you cure a prozac nation? Perhaps mental heath as part of the educational system, and the next gen grows up happier?

What's a happy outcome? I can't think of one that'll really work. How about a free world, cures for diseases, equality between races and no poverty for starters?
But people will find ways to suffer no matter what :(
 
The problem is certain members of our humanity are selfish, greedy and will stab anyone and everyone in the back to establish complete control...these are the people who have to be dealt with...sadly they gain ranks fast and are already in positions of power.

Happiness is "free will"...this will never happen because everyday Janes and Joes get all out of sorts because someone does something they don't like even if it doesn't hurt them or anyone else.
 
I think those who are suffering will continue to suffer, those who are doing OK will continue to do OK. Some of the details will change, and the degree of failure or success may become more extreme, but things will not change that drastically for most of the world in the next 20 to 30 years.
 
I'm not sure. I think a better educational system would help a lot, and could reduce troubles like racism, sexism, teenage pregnancy etc. How to set up that system? I don't know. I know enough people would make a fuss to ensure the final product be so watered-down as to not be worth it.

How do you cure a prozac nation? Perhaps mental heath as part of the educational system, and the next gen grows up happier?

What's a happy outcome? I can't think of one that'll really work. How about a free world, cures for diseases, equality between races and no poverty for starters?
But people will find ways to suffer no matter what :(

Some people will always find ways to suffer, and some people simply don't want to improve their lot. However I'm a big believer in long-term investment to make improvements in all the areas you mention. However, as someone who works in a children's centre in a deprived area I know that these programs are woefully underfunded. No government appears willing to put in place long-term investment to improve the quality of life of their most vulnerable citizens (or those governments that do have their plans cancelled by subsequent governments, as is the threat in the UK right now). I voted that things will get slightly worse before they improve, but that's just me trying to be optimistic. More likely things are seriously going to hit the fan before things improve.
 
Well, here are my personal views:

Humans love stating that their race sucks and that the end of the world is coming. They're never happier than when doing so. ;)

Humans have serious problems with self-respect. Being a sapient race on a harsh planet and having to struggle to survive for millennia will do that, I imagine. It's hard to appreciate yourself, hard to develop a sense of dignity when you're (for example) stripping your sons naked and making wasps sting them to toughen them up, or when you're eating grandma to survive a famine. Apes can't just click their fingers and make paradise. It was- and is- a long and hard struggle to build a civilization, and sapience isn't really a very happy thing if it isn't comfortable. Intelligence is of course great for a species, but sapience is not something I'd wish on a race fighting against natural selection every day. I mean, the human population hit a low of 10,000 at one point, we nearly didn't make it. And I think humans as a race are quite traumatized. Still fearful and insecure, and still unable to actually accept that they are truly dignified beings- because in the past they simply couldn't afford it. Humans still like control, order, being part of a structure and subordinating themselves to that structure rather than celebrating their own soul The instincts of harsh survival still govern them. They consider other people potential threats and live in fear of them (I've mentioned before that when meeting me in person people of all descriptions seem to instantly like me, and that people will always approach me for directions, advice, etc. I'm convinced it's because I put them at ease, because I'm not radiating a sense that they are competition. I therefore don't register on their threat-o-meter, and that's rare).

Where people go wrong, I think, in that they like to compare humans to gods, angels, etc, and thus have a very poor view of humans in comparison. Instead, they need to look at the lower animals and see how great humanity is. Humans love to put themselves down. They always view themselves as a "fallen" people, lowly, unworthy in their own eyes. Things were so much better before, but now we suck- that is pretty much their worldview. And they use it to justify their misery, their own and that they inflict on others. After all, they believe on some level they "deserve it" or that it's all they're good for (and no, I'm not blaming any particular philosophy or belief system for this- it's inherent in the race, I think, and in any belief system you will find those who overcome this view of humanity through that system). That's the way our cultural psyche seems on the whole to work, and frankly it irritates me. And it stagnates development. Our ascension is ongoing, the apes are still finding their way up. There isn't any "pre-fallen" state to return to, I'd assert, but there is the possibility of things being better. But as soon as most humans can conceive of something better, their response is not to aim for it happily (and if they fail, oh well, try again) it's instead to condemn themselves for not yet being "better". Things are like this- but wouldn't they be better if they were like that instead? The sensible response is "hmmm, yes. Let's try for that". What humans actually do, however, is moan about how terrible humanity is for not being like that already, and essentially saying "see! We're not like that! We suck!". It's like if I'm sitting in a chair and suddenly realize that I'll get a better view if I move to a second chair. But instead of just doing it, I instead moan and condemn myself loudly for my stupid, stupid decision of a first seat (despite having no way to know at the time it was not the better choice). And I stay on that first seat, bitching about myself.

I think things are unlikely to improve, personally, because many people don't actually want it to- that would violate their ideological beliefs as to the "fallen humanity" which should somehow be better than it is. Given a choice between, a) going out there and making their lives better or, b) sitting around moaning about how bad and evil and wrong they are, humanity will choose the latter 9 times out of 10. :lol: Because to do otherwise requires an appreciation of self-dignity humans have a hard time accepting, and that thanks to millennia of harsh struggle. So things won't improve...which is all the justification the human needs to continue the moaning.

There need to be some large-scale changes in the way humans relate to themselves, because their current model is no longer functional. First, they must stop being ruled by fear. Related to this, they have to put aside their desire for control and order, and the desire to subordinate their communities, families and individual lives to impersonal structures; nations, organized creeds and ceremonial traditions, corporations, etc. They have to encourage a sense of individual worth rather than worth measured in service to these structures. They have to be a lot looser and more individualistic, because only then can they learn to recognise their inherent dignity (which is not something that comes naturally- in fact, it is the antithesis of natural, because nature is not dignified). All people should be encouraged to know themselves; only they can say who and what they are. Once they have a respect for themselves, they can learn respect for others. Humans respond well to charisma- to those individuals who stand out and radiate a self-control. But currently people are not encouraged to develop such things; quite the opposite. They are encouraged to ignore the self and serve structures, therefore they can never learn to respect others. They do not live with possibilities and an understanding of the myriad means of relating to one another or of viewing things, but instead on a binary- us and them, in and out, right and wrong.

And the self-aware person with a sense of dignity and individual worth is NOT a selfish person- such people are usually very concerned about the community as a whole, and are rarely self-serving to the exclusion of others. Oh, they are self-serving, but that does not have to mean selfish. Serving self and serving the collective are equally important, and a society of those who have accepted their own dignity and worth can do both simultaneously with ease.

So, my way of looking at it is that humanity can have a bright future- so long as it learns to take advantage of the fact that life is no longer a struggle for survival (in some parts of the world, anyway). Now, for the first time, we have progressed to the point that we can afford to embrace sapience fully. And thus we need to develop a sense of the inherent dignity of humankind.

In my own way, I'm often encouraging what I see as the first steps in this; my contribution to our people, I hope. When I finish my education, I hope to do more. :)
 
The question doesn't specify short term or long term. In the long term, the future of Humanity is bright indeed; but it will be a long (subjective) road to get there. Although, History suggests that positive change will continue to speed up.

Think, after all, of the struggles of Humanity in the last several thousand years to build civilization, to literally cultivate order from chaos. Intelligent primates, armed with opposable thumbs and language, went from campfires and cave paintings to Stonehenge and the pyramids to the Library at Alexandria to the Renaissance to the American Revolution. Century upon century of war and starvation, disease and superstition, sexism and racism, violence and selfishness. And yet the most dramatic changes have come in the last two hundred or so years, since a nation was created that was for the first time not based on geography or genetics, but on the higher principles of the Enlightenment. And, in fact, the changes seen in the last fifty years have eclipsed the rest of Human History combined.

It's not over yet, obviously. Most people still haven't moved beyond gender stereotypes. There are still groups who threaten revolution and war over racial equality. The struggle for the Rights of homosexuals is being fought state by state. Poverty is still with us. In the larger world, wars over resources and religion and race go on and on. Fear is omnipresent and everywhere people cling to the bad old days as an alternative to an uncertain future.

But progress does not abate, nonetheless. The Human spirit shines brightly in the darkness and life continues to improve. There will continue to be horrors and disasters, some inflicted by nature, some brought upon us by our more backward elements. But Humanity will prevail and prosper and will one day walk among the stars.
 
I think we have progressed from inslaving people, refusing peoples rights etc. We are evolving into something better but it will take a long time. There will always be people, though, that want to go back in time and bring back the 'evil from our past'. A lot of those people tend to end up in jail, street gangs, or conservative political parties(OH SNAP. lol I'm good:evil:).
 
I think an era of human enslavement and suffering is about to dawn, unless my toadies somehow botch my foolproof plans.
 
Barring some catalysis that wipes life off the face of the planet i think the the human species has quite a bright future, i would love to see how the world looks in 2200.
 
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