Spoilers The Flash - Season 8 Discussion Thread

[Dick Whitman]

Because I work nights I never can watch the show when it airs. It used to be that new episodes uploaded to the CW app at 2am Central Time the next morning. So I would watch before I went to bed. Which is similar to how shows made for streaming like Disney Plus and Paramount Plus are.

Than sometime last year, probably late- early fall, CW waits until 5 or 6am - maybe? I was pissed. First week it happened I thought it was tech issue and stayed up later than I would normally- nothing. So not sure when they upload now.

So for all CW shows I do not watch until the following day.

 

[dupersuper]

I don't get the channel but it airs on Netflix here 2 or 3 days afterwards, so that's generally when I watch it.

 

[Mage]

I have to admit....

Ever since Crisis and the ending of Arrow, my interest in the Arrowverse shows has lessened. Supergirl went downhill very fast for me, Flash felt like same old-same old every season. Legends was still fun, but I somehow also lost interest there.
I've heard good news about Black Lightning, but since it was disconnected from the Arrowverse at first, and I was following so many shows, I decided to put that on the backburner. Maybe give that a shot. Batwoman is not available in the Netherlands I'm afraid.

I should really catch up on Legends. Last episode I saw was Sara being taken by aliens.

 

[thribs]

The Flash’s Whitney is back. I admit I forgot about him.

 

[Tuskin38]

I should really catch up on Legends. Last episode I saw was Sara being taken by aliens.

That was 2 seasons ago
The current season finished last week

 

[tomalak301]

It was a decent episode but why not air it immediately after Armageddon, or have a special episode in December, or even in January? I don't really understand coming back from a long hiatus with an episode like that. I did like the first season vibes though, especially when Bart and Nora were in the lab and you had the flashback to the night Barry was struck by lightning. It really is one of the most iconic scenes in the entire Arrowverse.

 

[thribs]

I thought this was going to be a longer arc than just one episode. Surprised it was a one off

 

[The Habs Fan]

This was a fun episode and they definitely made it feel like season 1 again. However, I can’t tell you at all what the plot for the rest of the season will be like. Felt like a completely standalone episode except for the brush disappearing at the end.

 

[FreezeC77]

I wasn't aware until reading a recap of the show after I watched that the character of Avery is in the comics apparently being a pretty recent addition (like 6 or 7 years ago) probably why I don't have knowledge of her.

I'll put it in spoilers just in case someone isn't aware and afraid it could spoil the rest of the season for them if the writers decide to use any of it.

Spoiler

Apparently there's an Avery Ho who is struck by lightning during the speed force storm (I think what we got on the show last season) and becomes a speedster and the "Flash of China"? Apparently there's some whole Chinese version of the JLA like a Aqua-man of China and stuff too? Weird...

Anyway. She also apparently has romantic feelings towards Kid Flash who is Iris' nephew not son, but close enough.

I wonder if towards the end of the season if we'll see new speedsters have emerged because of that speed force storm. I recently saw something saying the S8 finale could work as a series finale if the show isn't renewed. Perhaps that would be it. Barry seeing more speedsters able to protect not just Central City, but spread around the world as well. Kinda like Buffy with the potential slayers.

 

[Christopher]

Weird that both this episode and the Kung Fu season premiere that followed it were set around the New Year. It suggests that maybe there wasn't supposed to be such a long hiatus, that they were meant to debut in January. This would've worked better that way, since I completely forgot that this same Royal Flush Gang appeared in "Armageddon, Part 1."

The story was about as silly as Arrowverse time travel stories usually are. So they create the RFG years early, but it has no effect on the timeline? And moving Joe six inches to dodge a bullet screws up the timeline, but telling Avery that time travel works and giving her big clues that could advance her research profoundly doesn't affect the timeline?

And Jay Garrick is apparently as un-aging on Earth-Prime as his Earth-2 counterpart in Stargirl. Unless that's the same Jay as a result of the time-travel shenanigans he alluded to. His reference to bouncing around the timeline for 16 years seems specific enough to be significant, but I'm not sure what it's referring to. I thought it might be a reference to the gap between his last Golden Age comics appearance and "Flash of Two Worlds," but that was only 10 years.

 

[Mage]

That was 2 seasons ago
The current season finished last week

Maybe I'll binge the last two season during a long weekend soon. Mostly, I'm just not that drawn to the CW DC shows anymore

 

[Dick Whitman]

It was interesting that we saw a picture of Booster Gold only a week after the actor first appeared on Legends. Arrowverse shows almost never do that. We had plenty of name drops from characters on other shows. With no visual representation. Even when the characters have appeared together in previous crossovers. Hard not to suspect him appearing in a full guest appearance soon.

From little we know of the rest of this season- effects of time travel are not over. The producer said Iris’ random time sickness from last is going to be addressed.

More related to Stargirl - John showed on Instagram him in Atlanta for work just a week ago.

 

[Samurai8472]

Several endings are being prepared for seasons eight's finale in the event the show is not secured for a ninth season, if it is, it will only be 15 episodes

https://ew.com/tv/the-flash-season-...ter.com&utm_term=622a0bcc1309a200016fb71f

I hate when they do that IMO. It's just like Stargate SG-1. Season 8 ends things/ties up loose ends but they are contracted to another season( 9 ) where it feels like they should have stopped at 8.

Season 9 will probably feel tacked on because season 8 ended things in a better manner.

 

[kirk55555]

Several endings are being prepared for seasons eight's finale in the event the show is not secured for a ninth season, if it is, it will only be 15 episodes

https://ew.com/tv/the-flash-season-...ter.com&utm_term=622a0bcc1309a200016fb71f

I hate when they do that IMO. It's just like Stargate SG-1. Season 8 ends things/ties up loose ends but they are contracted to another season( 9 ) where it feels like they should have stopped at 8.

Season 9 will probably feel tacked on because season 8 ended things in a better manner.

To be fair, Stargate SG-1 Seasons 9 and 10 were really good (I think that Ben Bowder and Claudia Black were even better in SG-1 then they were in Farscape, and Bowder was a nice addition to the main cast at that point).

The Flash hasn't kept up its quality like Stargate did though, so honestly I'd be fine with it ending. I haven't even watched an episode since Season 7 (I dropped it around the time Cisco left and the evil cop was trying to arrest Frost), and the show felt like it was on its last legs then. I'm always going to really enjoy the first 3 Seasons (and to a lesser extent Season 5), but at this point the writers just have nothing left, and it just feels like a shell of the former show.

 

[The Habs Fan]

This was a passable episode for what was mostly stand-alone. Goldface was a fun one-off villain. I also like that Kramer now knows Flash’s true identity. But does anyone actually like the Frost/Chillblaine pairing? So dumb.

 

[Christopher]

A pretty good one. Goldface was really fun, a nice multifaceted villain. I'm glad they brought him back. (His previous appearance was in the episode "Love is a Battlefield," and I think that song was the ringtone on his phone here.)

Barry/Flash forming a closer relationship with Kramer is a good idea, now that she's reformed and become a good-guy character. I wondered why she never happened to copy Barry's speed and figure out his identity that way, but she explained here that the power copying only happens in times of stress. (Which makes me wonder what she was so stressed out about when she bought that iced coffee.)

I can take or leave Mark/Chilblaine, but the subplot here was more about Caitlin and her fear of being hurt again, so it worked in that way. They also did some terrific doubling effects with Caitlin and Frost.

 

[Dick Whitman]

This episode really worked for me. I usually had mixed feelings on the Caitlin and Frost split. This is the first time I fully liked it due to really good writing. Even the boyfriend stuff.

Goldface shows the benefits of good reoccurring villains. Strong charismatic performance from the actor and good plot. Which elevates every character around them.

Only thing that did not work was the Chester and Allegra scenes. Feels like a completely different show not on the level with everything else.

 

[Christopher]

Only thing that did not work was the Chester and Allegra scenes. Feels like a completely different show not on the level with everything else.

It did seem a bit tacked on, and I think their avoidance of their attraction has run its course and it's past time to move forward on that. But it's weirder how Iris was virtually absent except for the tag scene.

 

[Dick Whitman]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/t...ng-7-early-renewals-at-the-cw-1235116675/amp/

The Flash and Superman & Lois have been renewed for new season. Other DC shows on the CW are still up in the air.

Stargirl just finished filming season 3. With that not starting to air until months from now it does not surprise me they won’t make a decision or announcement soon.

Legends and Batwoman are hard to predict at this point.

Naomi is so new. Will they stick it out or cancel it early before committing to it.

 

[Saul]

I haven't started season 8 of The Flash yet but the quality of the show has been dipping each season. I'd rather see it end on some sort of a high if possible. I wonder if the show would have been renewed if the flash movie hadn't been pushed forward another year.