Nope. This episode definitely had some pretty ridiculous fake science in it.
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Nope. This episode definitely had some pretty ridiculous fake science in it.
"Luck be a Lady"
The episode was decent fluff that advanced the plot, gave us some fun moments but also had some really bad pseudo-science.
One great thing about the show is the team chemistry. Team Flash has great chemistry together. Not just the actors play off each other really well but scenes like the laser tag fight show the characters like each other too. I also like that the show is fun again, and less dark. We also got some fun moments like the Flash slipping on marbles and Barry and Iris trying to get married after a funeral.
The episode did advance the plot in some nice ways. We learn how the new metas got their powers. We also got some clues about what the Thinker is up to. Plus, we now have confirmation that
. I am sure that will be a factor soon. We also got new character developments with
. In addition, we got a change in the roster with
. Although, I feel like it was pretty obvious that the character was going to leave considering that he himself admitted that no one cared that he was sidelined. I kinda feel bad for him.
I know the very premise of the show is pseudo science with speedsters time travelling by running super fast but this episode had some rather ridiculous fake science and technobabble. First, I appreciate the writers trying to explain Hazard's meta powers but quantum entanglement does not create bad luck or good luck. Also, there is no such thing as conservation of luck whereby if something good happens to you, something bad has to happen to someone else. It probably would have been better not to try to explain her powers and just leave it as "she can make good things happen for herself and bad things happen to others". Last but not least, I was surprised that the writers resorted to Voyager-esque technobabble to solve the problem by having the particular accelerator emit a technobabble pulse that somehow canceled out Hazard's "technobabble" field of good luck.
The episode was decent fluff that advanced the plot, gave us some fun moments but also had some really bad pseudo-science.
One great thing about the show is the team chemistry. Team Flash has great chemistry together. Not just the actors play off each other really well but scenes like the laser tag fight show the characters like each other too. I also like that the show is fun again, and less dark. We also got some fun moments like the Flash slipping on marbles and Barry and Iris trying to get married after a funeral.
The episode did advance the plot in some nice ways. We learn how the new metas got their powers. We also got some clues about what the Thinker is up to. Plus, we now have confirmation that
the Thinker knows the Flash's secret identity
Cecil being pregnant
Wells coming back and Wally leaving
I know the very premise of the show is pseudo science with speedsters time travelling by running super fast but this episode had some rather ridiculous fake science and technobabble. First, I appreciate the writers trying to explain Hazard's meta powers but quantum entanglement does not create bad luck or good luck. Also, there is no such thing as conservation of luck whereby if something good happens to you, something bad has to happen to someone else. It probably would have been better not to try to explain her powers and just leave it as "she can make good things happen for herself and bad things happen to others". Last but not least, I was surprised that the writers resorted to Voyager-esque technobabble to solve the problem by having the particular accelerator emit a technobabble pulse that somehow canceled out Hazard's "technobabble" field of good luck.
DS9 - Don't remember the episode title, but they had a "Luck Generator" when someone opened a gambling place across from Quarks'.
Interesting idea, but it seems unlikely. Generally DC shows on different networks/services are in different realities, although Supergirl and (retroactively) Constantine are exceptions. I did see an article last night claiming it's been rumored that Wally will be joining Legends of Tomorrow. But it would be neat if you were right.
By the way, the town Wally said he'd be moving to, Blue Valley, is Wally's hometown from the comics.
Nope. Just gibberish. But there has been worse. I winced two weeks ago at the bit where Cisco broke Barry's symbol code by realizing that maybe it was structured like Greek instead of like the alphabet we use. The Greek alphabet is the same kind of alphabet as ours, with one symbol per sound. So his lines there meant nothing at all.
By the way, did anyone notice that the phrase "This house is bitchin'" was uttered by Cecile and Joe here, after showing up in the translation of Barry's symbols two weeks ago? That confirms what I guessed, that the seemingly nonsensical things he was saying came from the future.
He also said something about diapers and we now know Cecile is pregnant. For some reason Barry might be saying things that Joe or Cecile will be saying in the future so I wonder if Barry has somekind of speedforce connection to one of them.
I really enjoyed the episode and I'm kind of Sad that Wally is leaving. Didn't care much for the character at first but he has grown on me. Also with the house repairs couldn't Barry do that for Joe and Cecile in flash? Sure you got to buy new pipes and whatnot but the fixing things should be something he could do fast and save tons of money on paying people to fix it.
Jason
I think it's a coincidence, but it would be very cool if they did that.
Titans wouldn't even have to be set on Earth-1, he could play an alternate version of Wally West. That way they can establish it as part of Arroverse's multiverse and be free of the current continuity, while leaving the door open for crossovers.
Yeah, noticed that, I don't remember if Joe was in the room when Cisco read out the message, making this a closed loop, or was his choice of description unaffected by that.
I doubt it. He also said something about "Your Honor, I didn't kill anyone" or something like that, and there's no telling who the speaker could be there.
Is he skilled enough at plumbing and house repair to pull that off, though? Although I think there was a comics storyline not long ago where we saw the Flash save some people from a burning building, then speed-study up on construction techniques and speed-build a new apartment building for them. But I think he then got chastised by the construction unions for stealing work from them.
I don't think he was there, no.
...or just pay for it himself. We still don't know if Barry is rich from inheriting Star Labs.
What if Joe or Cecile Kills someone or is put on trial for the death of someone and that is something they say in court? Which makes you wonder who the victim is in that statement. It could be almost anyone.
Jason
In Season One, when the Flash ran into the past to save his mother, we saw an image of Barry apparently in jail (along with a glimpse of the Flash Museum, among other things). Perhaps we'll finally have a payoff for that, with Barry on trial for allegedly murdering someone. (There was a similar storyline in the comics years ago.)
Wasn't that the final Barry Allen Flash story for 25 years?
Know it's a tv problem (drama and all), but always hate when they can't figure out how super speed works. Barry was chasing a Prius, and fell down. Literally on the ground 2 seconds, and then gave up the chase. How fast does a Prius move in a city? He's got all the time in the world to walk out of the marbles, start running again, and catch them before he can even tell that they've moved positions. Just shrugged, realized there was like 45 minutes in the episode, and decided to catch them later.
When you can move THAT fast, pretty much nothing should be an obstacle, and no one should ever get away. Know it makes for shitty TV, but make better excuses/reasoning for why he can't catch them...
When you can move THAT fast, pretty much nothing should be an obstacle, and no one should ever get away. Know it makes for shitty TV, but make better excuses/reasoning for why he can't catch them...
The real problem with that scene was that they ignored momentum. He was running at hundreds of MPH, but when he slipped, his forward momentum miraculously vanished and he went straight up and then down again. At that speed, if his legs had slipped out from under him, he should've continued flying forward out of control at the same speed until he smashed into something. Which would've been a better excuse for why he wasn't able to continue the pursuit.
This episode reminded me a lot of DS9’s Rivals, where someone’s good luck was another’s misfortune. Also I kind of wish they struck a balance between serious and fluff. It feels like the pendulum has swung to the extreme in the other direction.
Not a bad episode but the weakest of the three so far. It was good to get Harry back and I’m glad they addressed the Wally situation.
Not a bad episode but the weakest of the three so far. It was good to get Harry back and I’m glad they addressed the Wally situation.
It seemed that way at first, but he settled into his gruffer persona once he was past the comedy of the "breakup cube" scene. I think it was The A.V. Club's reviewer who said it was like Cavanaugh had to shake off the remnants of H.R. before he could fully inhabit Harry again.
Also a fair point, he'd probably be two states over when he landed if he slipped and fell into the air at that speed. Either way, that that's the reason that the bad guy got away is beyond stupid. But it's a challenge when writing for over-powered characters in the first place; you need obstacles for them to struggle against, but they've got friggin' super powers, so it's tough to make them believable. This just fell on the wrong side of the line (lazy writing), as non-speedsters seem to get away from Barry all the time and he gives up.
Hell, later in the episode, he can't chase Hazard because like 5 things are about to go wrong at Jitters. Ok, great. Of course, he can move really fast, so by the time he's corrected those 5 things, she's what? TWO steps outside? She didn't teleport away, she doesn't have that power. Even if he went super slow and it took a few minutes to clear everything up, she's a couple hundred yards away and he can move lightning fast. Pretty good chance he'll catch up to her, no? Yes, given her power, something else would have gone wrong most likely, but the writers keep having the same problem. It's not a binary caught her/didn't catch her, he's got the speed to get distracted, go handle something else, and then still come back before anyone even notices he's gone. Non-speedsters shouldn't be getting away.
We've seen Barry speed read to temporarily learn something in the show, so they have set up the groundwork if they wanted to have him do a speed rebuild. Though really, no one can realistically do quality plumbing after only reading about it, there is still an element of training involved.
Have they ever used speedforce momentum in the show to do anything other than throw speedforce lightning? Basically I'm asking if there is any reason to think his momentum should work like that, because if they are consistent in the application, then that's fine. Right now it seems to work like Warp Drive, where you return to your previous normal space speed upon dropping out of warp.
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