This show's timing is really out of sync if they're just now getting around to their Friends Day episode.
Spoilers The Flash - Season 3
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HR's joke was worth the wait tho.
Wells-2 is owning HR. It's nice to have a Wells around who isn't a moron.
Guerrilla tactics?
It is a bit weird that they didn't have police help the second time. I mean, even gorillas in Roman armor probably couldn't stand up to guns.
Also a bit weird to see Keith David get above-the-line guest billing for 2-3 lines of voiceover, while David Sobolov only gets billed in the end credits for the larger role of Grodd. I guess David is a much bigger star, though. Mainly I'm disappointed he didn't have more to do. I wish Solovar had been more like the comics' version, the wise leader of a peaceful, intellectual ape society.
But what other live-action show would have a climax in which one CGI gorilla in armor is defeated by another CGI gorilla in armor in a fight atop a skyscraper? I never cease to be amazed at how unabashedly comic-booky this show is. It rarely makes a lot of sense, but I have to admire its sheer chutzpah and commitment to the crazy.
Actually, all punning aside, the gorillas should have used guerrilla warfare. Seriously. Sure, they're big and strong, but they're a few hundred soldiers on foot with medieval weaponry going up against a whole city in a highly technological civilization. Realistically, marching in with a conventional military formation would've been suicide. They would've needed to wield asymmetrical warfare tactics to have any hope.
Well, I guess that is what Grodd did when he captured the general and used him to launch the nuke. But why fall back on such crude tactics after that failed? Why not have his troops go underground, strike from the shadows, control minds one by one, infiltrate the city's power structure, and take over more gradually?
Speaking of things Grodd should've done but didn't, I noticed a big plot hole when I rewatched part 1: When they faked Barry's death to get Grodd to take him out of the cage, why didn't Grodd read their minds and know it was a trick?
Well, I guess that is what Grodd did when he captured the general and used him to launch the nuke. But why fall back on such crude tactics after that failed? Why not have his troops go underground, strike from the shadows, control minds one by one, infiltrate the city's power structure, and take over more gradually?
Speaking of things Grodd should've done but didn't, I noticed a big plot hole when I rewatched part 1: When they faked Barry's death to get Grodd to take him out of the cage, why didn't Grodd read their minds and know it was a trick?
All punning aside, the outnumbered speedsters should have used guerrilla tactics...it was pretty silly of them to stand there in the street waiting for the gorillas to come to them when their main advantage was speed. Hit 'em before they know you're there.
That was my first thought, but then I realized, no, they should have had the police and the army backing them up, so they would've been on the stronger side.
At the very least, they should've been more effective than they were. This was the debut of the Flash/Kid Flash/Jesse Quick team, and it should've been more impressive than this complete failure to achieve anything.
Well, the message of the episode is that the Flash shouldn't kill, so having the authorities slaughter them would have been problematic. Guess they were all about playing the Solovar card. No CGI gorillas were harmed in the making of this episode...except Grodd, he took some lumps.
ETA: But...it still looks pretty stupid for a group of speedsters to stand there waiting for their enemies to march into town.
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This was also a much better Wally & Jesse episode than last week. Everything was too perfect. I wonder what ill will befall them. Personally, I keep thinking that Savitar will take away Wally's powers, seeing as how he got them illicitly. And if that happens I hope it's temporary. The only "bad" I can take is them disappearing to Earth-2 as suggested in last week's discussion.
Ok discribing Green Arrow as green elf was funny. 
Can't wait.
I didn't hate this episode but like last week I think it was hyped way way too much. Maybe CW knew these episodes wouldn't be good but it was Gorilla City and people like Grodd so they decided to go all out.
I'm glad Jesse is staying around though and this was a decent Wally/Jesse episode. I think this episode was forced to have big promises and there was no way it could ever deliver what people might have expected. You can't do a theatrical film on a tv budget.
I was kinda bummed there was no Julian tonight.
I'm glad Jesse is staying around though and this was a decent Wally/Jesse episode. I think this episode was forced to have big promises and there was no way it could ever deliver what people might have expected. You can't do a theatrical film on a tv budget.
I was kinda bummed there was no Julian tonight.
Yup.
My first thought was: wait, has anyone told Felicity about that?
Or else they just didn't realize the inconsistency. The two shows are in the same universe and from the same production company, but they have different writing staffs. It wouldn't be a mea culpa, since the Flash writers weren't the one's responsible for Arrow's stories. (So it'd be a they-a culpa.) Different creative teams in the same universe aren't always aware of each other's storylines, because they're busy with their own. Maybe whatever parties are responsible for continuity dropped the ball on this.
Then again... Darhk did pretty much launch every nuke on the planet, so there can't be many left. Nearly all of them were shut down and presumably crashlanded, but it would've taken a long time to repair and reinstall them, and maybe the military decided to decommission them as a security risk because they were hackable. So maybe the only ones left are the older, non-hackable ones. In which case it's not bad continuity, it's actually great continuity! Yeah, that's the ticket! When do I get my No-Prize? Oops, wrong publisher.
Out of story, yes, obviously. But in-story, it didn't make much sense that the police were present in the first half but absent without explanation in the climax.
This was an episode that showed the limits of their budget and/ or imaginations. It's amazing that we can see CGI Gorillas fighting on network television. But that seems to be the extent of their idea. So after the setup of assistance of the Police force they have no involvement in the finale.
Could that be the fate worse than death from Savatar's prophecy? I could definitely see Wally looking at it that way.
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