I'm sure Cisco Ramon and the other expositioneers will fill everyone in with some snappy dialog.
Spoilers The Flash - Season 3
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I prefer the Shameless version of a recap, where they insult the audience for not bothering to watch the previous week.
I'm still surprised they actually made Flashpoint have an effect on Diggle's family, and indeed on the entire "Invasion!" crossover. After that, there's no telling how much sharing of ideas they'll have. They're doing this the same way the comics do things, with a casual sharing of characters and story threads from series to series. I'm surprised they don't have little editor's notes popping up on the screen saying "*As last seen in The Flash episode 3.12" or something. (Although I guess that's what their "Previously on Arrow and The Flash" sort of recaps are for.)
"That's the guy who used to be Zoom, because his name is Hunter Zolomon, but he pretended to be another Flash called Jay Garrick whom he actually held imprisoned in a silly mask, but the guy pretending wasn't actually him it was really his time remnant that he then killed himself, but it's okay he made another, but that's a no-no, so Time Wraiths were mad at him and turned him into Black Flash and imprisoned him in the Speedforce but he escaped because you can't lock up the darkness.
Might help if I draw a graph..."
And then he draws a line and 3 circle-ish shapes on a white board? 
That would be awesome!
3x10...
I like that we got a glimpse into all the things they'll be dealing with for the rest of the season.
I like that we got a glimpse into all the things they'll be dealing with for the rest of the season.
Music Meister gets book deal! City recovers from gorilla attack! Awesome. It would've been even funnier if the episode title had been "Spoiler Warning."
I guess Greg Grunberg's sticking around for a while. When his character was mocking the name "Kid Flash," I couldn't help thinking, "This from a guy called Snap Wexley."
The motorcycle chase scene made no sense timing-wise. The Flashes are supposed to be able to run hundreds of miles per hour. The bike should've been virtually standing still next to them. There shouldn't even have been a chase. And when Cisco said to Wally "Take your next left, the roads converge in about two miles and you can head him off," by all rights Kid Flash should've reached the next left before Cisco finished saying "Take." Heck, probably before he even started saying it.
I liked this episode more than I liked Supergirl's midseason premiere last night. This episode felt like not only a reminder of where we have come and where we are going, but it actually felt connected to the midseason finale and worth the month wait between episodes. I'm liking the direction for the back half of the season even though yeah you could have called the episode spoiler warning. I wonder if they will only fix some of these headlines while letting others go. The future isn't written so who knows what kind of damage (or non-damage) they might cause as the season goes on. Also loved the Cisco and HR scenes, and Julian joining Team Flash is a welcome thing.
I still can't stand H.R. (and am seriously hoping he goes away after next week's episode), but the rest of tonight's episode was the best that The Flash has been in a while.
I was initially annoyed with the way that they introduced Julian as being Doctor Alchemy, but since then they've managed to redeem the issues I had with said reveal and re-cement Julian as one of the better things about the show this season, so I'm really glad he's an official member of Team Flash now, and am hoping it'll lead to romantic entanglements between him and Caitlin because I think he could genuinely make her happy, which is something she needs.
Not telling Joe about what happens with Iris and Savitar is really not the smartest thing that our heroes could do and is pretty much guaranteed to blow up in their faces, which annoys me, but I did like the way the writers are using that particular "flash-forward" as a narrative framework for the show's storylines going forward since it gives them a goal to work towards and consequently makes the entire thing feel very different to what was done last season on Arrow.
I also like that the episode showed Barry and Iris waking up together because it means that the show isn't shying away from any of the things that moving in together would typically entail for two people of Barry and Iris' age group, and because it ends up deepening their connection in a way that ups the stakes considerably in terms of trying to keep her alive.
The only real nitpick I have (outside of my continuing dislike of H.R.) is I don't really buy this version of Wally as a "fame seeker", which made the fact that he's got a public fan club now as Kid Flash (especially after only two or three official outings in the suit) feel out-of-place for me.
I was initially annoyed with the way that they introduced Julian as being Doctor Alchemy, but since then they've managed to redeem the issues I had with said reveal and re-cement Julian as one of the better things about the show this season, so I'm really glad he's an official member of Team Flash now, and am hoping it'll lead to romantic entanglements between him and Caitlin because I think he could genuinely make her happy, which is something she needs.
Not telling Joe about what happens with Iris and Savitar is really not the smartest thing that our heroes could do and is pretty much guaranteed to blow up in their faces, which annoys me, but I did like the way the writers are using that particular "flash-forward" as a narrative framework for the show's storylines going forward since it gives them a goal to work towards and consequently makes the entire thing feel very different to what was done last season on Arrow.
I also like that the episode showed Barry and Iris waking up together because it means that the show isn't shying away from any of the things that moving in together would typically entail for two people of Barry and Iris' age group, and because it ends up deepening their connection in a way that ups the stakes considerably in terms of trying to keep her alive.
The only real nitpick I have (outside of my continuing dislike of H.R.) is I don't really buy this version of Wally as a "fame seeker", which made the fact that he's got a public fan club now as Kid Flash (especially after only two or three official outings in the suit) feel out-of-place for me.
My thoughts exactly. Maybe the motorcycle was going at Mach 5.
Overall, not a bad episode. I had almost forgotten the time Caitlin turned into Killer Frost and kidnapped Julian, or that Julian was Alchemy and under Savitar's control. It felt like an entire season had passed since the last episode.
Maybe the motorcycle was going at Mach 5.Overall, not a bad episode. I had almost forgotten the time Caitlin turned into Killer Frost and kidnapped Julian, or that Julian was Alchemy and under Savitar's control. It felt like an entire season had passed since the last episode.
Haven't seen the ep yet, so dunno if the ep presented it as the Flashes visibly struggling to catch the bike, but there was a motorcycle chase in Season 1, which I think highlighted the point there - the issue is not "can the Flash catch a motorbike?" but "can the Flash stop a speeding motorbike safely without harming the rider or bystanders?". In the earlier encounter, the Flash redirected the bikes so they were forced to brake to a halt, then zipped in to turn off the engines and remove the keys. Simply catching up and clotheslining (or grabbing) the rider is gonna cause some damage.
There were also the obstacles created by Plunder's weapons, which may have caused the Flashes to slow.
I'm not sure a romance wouldn't get in the way of their story arc. What defines their relationship isn't physical attraction, but the shared experience of being cursed with villainous alter egos and feeling guilt over their actions. They support each other because they understand each other, and they're trying to help each other both as fellow scientists and as something more. It's like they've got their own little Villains Anonymous support group, which is an interesting dynamic in its own right.
Yeah, probably, but I understand their reasoning. They're right about Joe's overprotectiveness. The moment he finds out his little girl's in danger, he'll go ballistic, and that could complicate matters badly in itself. So they've got no good options here.
Well, he was a street racer before he was a speedster. There's an element of performing for an audience in that. And having a need for validation seems entirely in character for him, given how upset he's been about Joe or Barry not believing in him.
That wasn't the case here. First, there was a slow-motion scene of Plunder's bike and Kid Flash racing toward each other joust-style, and it seemed that KF was hardly moving any faster than the bike, even though it had started from a stationary position. Heck, even a normal runner could outpace a motorcycle in the first second or so, because a lower mass can accelerate more easily. By all rights, KF should've had Plunder on the ground before he'd gotten the bike past a crawl.
In the second case, there was a long chase through alleys, during which the Flashes couldn't even seem to catch up with Plunder -- and his traps don't explain that, because there were long enough intervals between them that speedsters should've easily been able to catch up. There was also this clumsy CG shot of them dodging bombs in slow motion, in which they hardly seemed to be running faster than a normal person, judging from the falling speed of the bombs relative to their running.
I've always wondered why the Flash stops and trash talks the villain instead of just zooming in behind them and knocking them out. The Flash is clearly fast enough that any non-speedster should never even see him coming. But it is a perfect example of the show bending the "rules" in order to make for better drama. You are right that the fight should have been over in seconds. The fact is that virtually every confrontation the Flash has with a non-speedster should be over in seconds. But that would pretty boring. The show routinely cheats by slowing down our speedsters when it is convenient in order to extend the fights and create more spectacular visuals.
This version of Kid Flash is a nineteen to twenty year-old kid who had just recovered from a serious identity crisis and death of a parent. I think Wally's reaction is pretty normal for someone of his age. Even Barry had reveled in it after he had first become the Flash. And he was in his mid-twenties at the time.
Of that's what it was.
I had this niggling feeling throughout the episode that this reminded me of something, but I just couldn't put my finger on it...
This was the first time I wasn't annoyed with Wally. He's a young guy who is finally being able to embrace his newfound ability. I'd be excited to if that happened to me.
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