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Spoilers The Flash - Season 2

So has there been any word on whether they're actually dealing with the consequences of what happened at the end of Season 1 or are they just going to sweep them under the rug and get in to the Earth-2 stuff?

Because when you think about it Barry's mother should be alive, which means his father never went to prison, which means he wasn't raised by Joe and didn't grow up with Iris.

Meanwhile the real Harrison Wells should be alive but wouldn't have set up the "accident" that created the Flash and all the other Meteor Freaks. (Sorry, wrong show.)

And Eddie should also be alive because there was no need for him to kill himself. Which means Eobard would be born, which means he would kill himself. Which means he wouldn't be born, so he wouldn't kill himself.

And so on forever...
 
They have said, they will deal with the aftermath, but jump ahead a few months and then show the immediate fall out in flashbacks during the course of the season.
 
StCoop said:
Because when you think about it...
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And there's the root of your problem right there. ;)

This is comic-book time travel. It follows whatever logic the writers find convenient. The way to think about it is in terms of real-world storytelling needs, not in-story temporal mechanics. In real-world terms, The Flash shares a universe with Arrow, and Arrow is not going to toss three years of backstory out the window and start over, and we've already seen from the season 4 trailer that events from the past are still very much remembered. So the timeline has not been altered. "Erasing" Thawne didn't undo his past actions, it just eliminated him as a future threat. Whether they concoct a handwave to explain that or just gloss over it is pretty much the only question.
 
That teaser was very cool, it still blows my mind that we're getting Jay Garrick on The Flash. The season can't start soon enough for me.
 
Christopher said:
StCoop said:
Because when you think about it...
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And there's the root of your problem right there. ;)

This is comic-book time travel. It follows whatever logic the writers find convenient. The way to think about it is in terms of real-world storytelling needs, not in-story temporal mechanics. In real-world terms, The Flash shares a universe with Arrow, and Arrow is not going to toss three years of backstory out the window and start over, and we've already seen from the season 4 trailer that events from the past are still very much remembered. So the timeline has not been altered. "Erasing" Thawne didn't undo his past actions, it just eliminated him as a future threat. Whether they concoct a handwave to explain that or just gloss over it is pretty much the only question.
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Definitely there is going to be some hand-waving as there is in any good comic story. The cliffhanger from season 1 will probably be used to explain why events didn't change completely (temporal anomalies and such) and as a loophole to bring Thawne back in the future. It also seems to be the catalyst for this season's arc and maybe even Legends' storyline.
 
Here's an extended version of yesterday's Other Worlds trailer:

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVOR9D8FRbQ[/yt]

Additional bits include Patty Spivot and a bit of Zoom talk.
 
Lots to like with Zoom being the one sending guys after Flash. And since I was a big fan of the rated r superstar who reeked of awesomeness, Edge looked good as Atom Smasher.
 
That was Golden Glider flirting with Sisco.
That opening narration was very ominous, I like it. I'm curious to see what exactly they're going to do wit Zoom to keep him from seeming like a repeat of Reverse Flash. I know the actual story and backstories are going to probably be very different, but there are really only so many things you can do with another speedster.
 
JD said:
I'm curious to see what exactly they're going to do wit Zoom to keep him from seeming like a repeat of Reverse Flash. I know the actual story and backstories are going to probably be very different, but there are really only so many things you can do with another speedster.
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Powers are incidental. What matters is the character, the personality. Thawne/Wells was a very distinctive character -- a foe who hated the Flash but played the role of Barry's guide and mentor and developed genuine respect for him alongside the hatred. Zoom seems to be a more remote, even monstrous foe who's openly opposed to the Flash from the get-go. I don't think there will be any problem differentiating them.
 
Are they going to even try to pretend, or LIE about how Zoom is not Young Thawne?

The climax of this season is going to see Barry do that unforgivable slight against The Reverse Flash/Zoom that begins their cross time Feud... Even though that this is a different timeline and disconnected from the original slight that did start their Barney.
 
New theory.

Eddie is Zoom. :D

Furthermore, Eddie is Eobard.

Wells was bitter about losing Iris to Barry when he was Eddie, and annoyed that he was tricked into killing himself to nix Wells/Eobard by Eobard who used to be Eddie.

...

The Reverse Flash in Suicide Squad Comics continues to be the Charlie Brown of Supervillainy. :)

His comms were broken, so home base thought that he wasn't listening, or there, when they started joking cruelly about what a disappointing #### up the Reverse Flash is.
 
I wonder if in answer to Ciscos question about what other Earths there are, Jay will say there are an infinite number or there are 52.
Thinking that maybe Atom Smasher will turn into a good guy as he was tricked by Zoom into believing The Flash was an evil villain.
 
Icemizer said:
I wonder if in answer to Ciscos question about what other Earths there are, Jay will say there are an infinite number or there are 52.
Thinking that maybe Atom Smasher will turn into a good guy as he was tricked by Zoom into believing The Flash was an evil villain.
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They'll probably say infinite. There is no reason to restrict the TV show to what, in the end, was a fairly arbitrary number of "allowed" universes that the comics went with.
 
kirk55555 said:
Icemizer said:
I wonder if in answer to Ciscos question about what other Earths there are, Jay will say there are an infinite number or there are 52.
Thinking that maybe Atom Smasher will turn into a good guy as he was tricked by Zoom into believing The Flash was an evil villain.
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They'll probably say infinite. There is no reason to restrict the TV show to what, in the end, was a fairly arbitrary number of "allowed" universes that the comics went with.
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LOL--that's right. The only reason that there were 52 Earths is because it came from a weekly series that lasted a year.
 
kirk55555 said:
Icemizer said:
I wonder if in answer to Ciscos question about what other Earths there are, Jay will say there are an infinite number or there are 52.
Thinking that maybe Atom Smasher will turn into a good guy as he was tricked by Zoom into believing The Flash was an evil villain.
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They'll probably say infinite. There is no reason to restrict the TV show to what, in the end, was a fairly arbitrary number of "allowed" universes that the comics went with.
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There are probably infinite Earths. I've found 52 so far.
 
The Hawk costumes look pretty good but I am not sold on the head pieces yet. They look a bit to large some how.
 
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